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Eliot and Tim, I respect your opinions but I'm fortunate I found

someone who shares my views, otherwise I'd rather be single to this

day. When I see how much money some of my friends' wives burn on

clothing, shoes, home furnishings, costume jewelry and various salon

services ($35 to have someone cut their toenails for them!)it gives

me hives. My wife looks as good or better than they do but she

understands the concept of *value*, i.e. how much something is worth

both in terms of cost:functionality and resale. The diamond

engagement ring she has worn for the past 22 years was the same one

my grandmother wore for more than 60 years, and we were married on

the same date, for luck. So much for either of us lacking in

sentimentality. I think Gulley's fiancee is truly a rare gem, I hope

he fully realizes how fortunate he is, and I believe she would not be

hurt or offended in the least no matter how he chooses to take her up

on her offer. I had a ton of Leica and other high-end photo gear

long before I met my wife, and she has never tried to get me to give

up buying and selling it. She and Gulley's future wife I'm sure are

happier to have us indulge in Leicas as opposed to spending even a

fraction of that money on gambling, liquor or other women.

 

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But I do like the idea of using the new camera to make some beautiful

portraits of her.

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Gulley: What about an R8 with the 100mm F/2.8 Macro so that

you can take pictures of your fiancee's ring!! I am only kidding,

but I have found the R8 to be an exquisite and reliable tool. If you

don't require AF, then you should seriously consider it. I would

get the above mentionned 100mm F/2.8 as well as the 80-200

F/4 or the 180mm F2.8. A 2X APO will also be very useful. This

system will COMPLEMENT you M giving you macro and

telephoto capability. If your fiancee's budget is limited, I know that

Ken has many of the above mentionned bodies and lenses

second hand. Congratulations on your engagement.

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the whole reason with an engagement gift is to give something that

will last your entire life. The only 35mm equipment that can and

will do that is Leica. End of story. Either trade up for a M7, or

get a Noctilux etc.

 

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Camera choice - depends on what you want to do. All the answers

provided above.

 

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My take - the PERFECT gentleman engagement present is a high end

watch. It is the ULTIMATE male gift, the only jewelry a man wears

(accept engagement ring) and it is a tradition in several countries.

If you are the sporty type, a Rolex Submariner is a classic choice

(unfortunatly tainted by yuppies and noveau riches, but still the

first ever dive/sport watch and the bench mark still today). Other

nice sport watches comes from IWC. Dress wise: Blancpain, Patek,

Ulysse Nardin and others.

 

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A high end mechanical classical Swiss watch is something you will

cherrish your entire life and something you can pass on to your

future son. You already have a great 35mm combo, everything else

will get killed by digital.

 

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Congrats on your engagement! Now, buy her plenty of flowers (lillys)

and say the magic words. As often as you can.

 

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cheers,

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i got my basic m6 kit as a graduation present from my parents. thay

told me i could get whatever camera i want, so i went for one which

will stay as outdated as it is today for the next 50 years. it's not

a fancy fashion object. something which willserve me as a memory item

for the years to come. and a pretty useful one too. <p>

so therefore i would go for some modern classics, like a hasselblad

501 or an alpa or so. it should be more than a toy. or what about a

leica 0-serie?

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Pat, you forgot the A. Lange & Sohne make. The 1815 is particularly

a nice simple gorgeous dress watch. Check'em all out on

www.timezone.com. Patek is very nice as well. You may want to go

the watch route as it is a more normal engagement type gift.

Although a Hasselblad would be nice.

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Pat: The best of the Swiss watches are undoubtedly those made

by Patek-Philippe. Ask any jeweller and they will confirm this. The

sporty Nautilus is indestructible and the more formal watches

such as the Calatrava and the repeaters are works of art. The

Nautilus goes quite well with the chrome M6 or 7!!!

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What about a Rolleiflex TLR. Larger negative, quiet (no mirror),

excellent lens quality, it can take take portraits of the mrs.(no

viewfinder blackout just like your rangfinder), yet compact enough to

work along side your M6 and if you wanted to get a new one you could

certaintly drop a lot of $$$$ :) A much more elegant camera than a F5

or some new digital...IMHO

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Gulley--

 

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This is a minefield. It is not good to establish a quid pro quo

in gift giving, especially at such an early stage. Gifts are

given out of love, not in exchange.

 

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Tell her that if she will marry you, that is the greatest gift of all,

and let it go at that. What you sacrifice in camera gear will be more

than offset in good vibes.

 

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If she really wants to spend money, have her put it toward a nice

honeymoon that you both can enjoy.

 

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Just the $.02 contribution of a divorced photographer.

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