FP4+ grain issues in 35mm

[gnashings]

Your scan looks far more grainy than my usual combo of FP4+ in Rodinal 1+50, which as you can imagine, is not something I do to get fine grain... One thing that does concern me, is a friend of mine recently showed me a print he made from a roll he souped in something fine grained (I think DDX) and it too was more grainy at 5x7 than my Rodinal souped stuff at 8x10... This is a tiny sample, but perhaps there was a bad batch of film? I have not shot any in 35mm in a while personally, so I have nothing to add.

[wieslaw1]

And I simply do not compare films grain on the basis of

computer scans, no matter how high resolution was used, on

monitor screen giving final resolution of 72 dpi!

[jtk]

See if Vuescan works with your scanner..it's not on the list..ask by email http://www.hamrick.com/

 

Vuescan has a grain reduction alogrithm that doesn't soften grain...works great with my Nikon.

 

Alternatively, scan the neg as if it was a slide, then invert in Elements or Photoshop or whatever. That's a Nikonscan trick with silver negs..without it, Nikonscan exaggerates grain. Might work with your Canon.

[geowelch]

I'm hoping to upgrade my scanner to an Epson 4490 in the next few weeks - I need a scanner that supports medium format as well as 35mm. It comes with Digital Ice. I've seen good results from the same bulk roll this negative came from. I think I'll concentrate on exposure and dilution before I think about switching film, although I have a few rolls each of Agfa APX100,

Fuji Acros 100 and Delta 100 that I'm dying to try...

[jtk]

Digital Ice isn't going to help your silver-based film. The trick's in the scanning workflow or scanning application, as I suggested.

[geowelch]

I took another look at the Digital Ice specs. Some versions have grain reduction ability but won't work with b&w film. I'll give VueScan a try since it supports my scanner.

[jordan_w.]

Digital Ice with B&W film just won't work... it can't distinguish the image from the dust, and gives crazy results. It's a physical limitation of the principle behind Digital Ice.