bms Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I recently came across the Nikkor 2000mm Reflex lense. It had been sitting in an attic for 18 somewhat years. This monster weighs 43 lbs! Since I am no Hercules, I have a little trouble hand holding this lens and unfortunately, the person who bought it originally did not seem to have also gotten the dedicated mount (I think called AY-1). Nikon told me to go look for one used, but I hjave not been able to locate one. Neither have I been able to find reliable information about any tripod that would bear that much weight. My won home made construction is not really that stable, so there is still quite a bit of shake - see example at ISO 800, 1/100, <a href= http://www.photo.net/photo/5628313> here </a> <br> Does anyone have any experience in that regard, or suggestions? Much appreciated, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik4s Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I have seen these mounted on heavy duty gitzo tripods as well as some wooden tripods, both with the additional yoke that really makes this lens a lot easier to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancoxleigh Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Try a couple of astronomy stores. They sell ultra heavy duty tripods for other telescopes made from steel and heavy aluminum tubing (and also carbon fiber). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_pedersen1 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 If you are serious about using this lens a serious tripod is the only answer. The least expensive stable tripod will cost upward of $500. My eye is on a Dutch-Hill carbon fiber tripod. Look at www.photonaturalist.com and check out his camera gear section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff h. Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ian has got it right. Check out your local astronomy/telescope store (try Orion, they have value-laden gear). I use a 500/8 reflex lens with a 1.4x and 2x teleconverter on an Orion Sky View Pro tripod with the camera mounted on a dovetail bar and with a motorized mount. Great photos are possible, given the right atmosphere and eyesight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christiaan_phleger___honol Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 You may also be able to adapt a Wimblely (sp) head to do the job of the yoke, I think that finding a used AY-1 may be a lot harder than finding another 2000 Reflex. The other alternative might be to have one custom made by Kirk or Really Right Stuff. Nice lens, I don't think I've ever seen one in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_warn Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 While your shopping for a tripod at that astronomy shop I would suggest lugging that 2000mm lens along with you. The 2000mm Nikkor is basicaly a telescope adapted for camera use and it's quite possible that the Nikon designer used a mount for the adapter that is common for a telescope. If so, all you may have to do is find the correct telescope/camera adapter. If you don't get that lucky then you'll have to have one custom made which should be fairly simple for any good machine shop, however it will be expensive at the 75 bucks an hour typical at most machine shops charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_wilder1 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Check with Kirk regarding the King Cobra head seen here: http://www.kirkphoto.com/cobra.html. or see if they have any other suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff h. Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I was really intrigued by this thread and couldn't stop thinking about it. Obviously, the weight of your lens is the critical issue here: at forty-three whopping pounds you really are out of the photography realm and into the astronomy sphere here! In comparison, my 8" Schmidt-Cassegran telescope, which is essentially a 2000/f.10 reflex lens, weighs in at a wimpy sixteen pounds. I see from reading up on your lens at www.mir.com.my that your lens has a tripod socket, and there are some nice ball heads that can handle heavy setups, but I'd be afraid to dangle that much weight off a thin tripod thread. Obviously, the dedicated AY-1 mount is the best solution, but I'm guessing that the AY-1 is one of Nikon's rarest creations. I like the idea the previous poster had about getting a machine shop to make up a fork mount (you could even get it painted or powder-coated to match the lens). You might get lucky and find a commercial telescope fork mount that fits a 10" telescope tube that you could rig up. Another idea I had was to get the astronomy optical tube rings that are designed to fit on a long dovetail bar and clamp on to a telescope tube (sort of like the rings that mount a rifle scope). Once you get the mount figured out, all you have to worry about is a monster tripod. Actually, I think that an astronomical pier stand may be the way to go here; since you are not rotating this rig way off-center to follow an equatorial or orbital path, you don't have to worry about the rig tipping over so much as the ability to merely hold it upright at a comfortable height. In any event, I wish you the best of luck and please, when you get this Hubble lens rigged up, post a picture of your solution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 If you are considering astronomy photos look into a german equitorial mount that allows tracking the stars and planets without getting curved trails. Some of the best are made by Losmandy. They aren't cheap, especially if you have a motor drive. Vixen is another good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bms Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 Thanks everyone - you gave me great ideas, not the least that I better start saving up ... I think I know what kind of tripod to get... I'll post a photo when it's mounted..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
film-user Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Take a look at the big auction site. I see many used monster Linhof tripods listed. The bigger ones were for the 8x10 inch bellows cameras, so they can probably handle your 2000 mm lens. Your new lens was, as I recall, extremely expensive even in the early 1970s. According to "Nikon System Handbook," it was introduced in 1969. As I recall, it was mostly used by surveillance agencies, game wardens, and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_cornish Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Hey Ben, I just threw away a telescope but kept the trip[od. If you are interested, email me or post here and i'll post a photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 if you are still interested in goign in this direction: getthe Wimberley over the Kirk "king Cobra" Main reason the lens is supported for m underneath. But use of either assumes that the lens itself has a tripod attachment point. But I'm pretty sure that lens came with the yoke as standard equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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