deanna_trevizo Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I've been on a lot of websites, and many don't want the picture to be photoshoped, but what if I want to darken one area, or lighten another. Anything would help in this category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danscool Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 photoshop is amazing, it is great for making suttle changes like you said (darkening and lightening an image) as well as drasticly changing an image, like adding or removing bits, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_axford1 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I think what the web site is saying is that they don't want the image manipulated. Most news services will fire you if you have 'manipulated' an image. It also applies to images of show dogs, cattle, legal, etc. where someone has 'altered' an image that is not an accurate representation of the truth. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeaster Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 It's good for resizing images for the web. It is OK for removing little dust squiggles from a scanned B&W negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Photoshop can do pretty much any kind of manipulation. Web sites that tell you what you can and can't do aren't worth worrying about unless you're doing news or evidence. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall ellis Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I agree *generally* with what Jeff stated, but not specifically. If a site has specific, and detailed, guidelines for what is and is not acceptable for their site, then I see no reason to shun them - just because they have an opinion about how much is too much doesn't mean they have not right to host an internet gallery. Face it, we all have an opinion on that topic, some people are just more professional than others when discussing it, so why turn your nose up at someone who feels differently than you? Now, if they just use the blanket term 'no photoshop!' and give no specific reason for their choice, then, yes, it si quite possible that they are not going to be very professional, and therefore not worth dealing with. There are afew very good sites for people who do not use photoshop in any way, special interested groups if you will, that have a very clearly defined reasoning for their choice to apply such a limitation, and that, in my opinion, makes all the difference. - Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael lalande Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 To darken a specific area of a photo is called "burning" and Photoshop works quit well for this... 1. Create a new layer (set the blending mode to overlay and check the 'fill with medium gray box') 2. Press 'D' to set the background color to black 3. Choose a soft edged brush (set the opacity to around 15%) and run it over the area you wish to darken. 4. Once you have finished add a gaussian blur to the new layer to blend the effect nicely. To lighten an area of the photo is called dodging, and can be done in exactly the same way as above, just use white as the color instead of black. Hope this helps :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham john miles Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 PS replaces hours in a darkroom breathing noxious chemicals. It's scope is amazing although due to a steep learning curve not many people use it to its full potential. For art and commercial photogaphers it is indispensible with it's power to fine tune images and add to them. Try designing a poster sometime with multiple layers, graphics and text, this is where it shines. If you love photography, you'll know that taking the picture is perhaps not enven 50 percent of the process, the rest is processing and presentation and that's why you need something like PS or an equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall ellis Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Odd, I've spent years in the darkroom and the only noxious smells in there came out of me... - Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay sturdevant Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Even before photoshop, if you or someone else wasn't controlling things like contrast, color balance, cropping etc. of your film and subsequent prints, the results likely didn't come close to what you eyes saw when you took the photograph. I would argue that with film and digital there SHOULD be manipulation of parameters like contrast, sharpening etc, or your images likely aren't reaching their full potential, and the idea that you could handle a digital file or scanned film without image editing software is not realistic. I suspect they mean there is an accepted level of manipulation they accept. There is a line between manipulation and fabrication that is discussed frequently on photo.net, where that line rests depends on who you ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay sturdevant Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Randall, stop drinking the stop bath! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall ellis Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 My darkroom is my bathroom, so it all work out in the end (ouch!) - Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_powell2 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I used to work in a newspaper darkroom where most prints were burned and dodged to make the best possible image for reproduction. As others have said, Photoshop (and other such programs) are simply electronic tools for doing the exact same things digitally (plus infinitely more). If someone forbids Photoshopping, find out if they ever scan and adjust image "levels" for optimum posting on their sites. If they do, does the word "hypocracy" come to mind? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall ellis Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Hence my comments above on outlining what is acceptable and what is not. A certain amount of correction needs to be done in order to make what shows up on the monitor appear similar to the physical print, and even then, what shows up on the monitor never looks exactly like the print I'm scanning. I've never seen any site (but I've not looked extensively either) that said you can only post straight from the scanner - they all have a set list of criteria that must be met to either (as on this forum) qualify as 'unaltered' or to be allowed to be posted at all. - Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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