matt_m__toronto_ Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 am looking for a panoramic camera. one option is the hasselblad xpan. i see oneon the bay. what is a fair market value of an xpan with 45mm lens today? seems like the older fuji 6x9 and 6x12's can be had for an ok price on the usedmarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 The one on fleabay is a good price, but it will surely go up to about $2K or more once the sniper software kicks in. There's also a second version of the xpan, so you'll want to make sure you know which one it is. While the Fuji's are less expensive, they are not cheap either. I know they made a 6x4.5, 6x7, 6x9, and 6x17, but I don't think they made a 6x12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Pano cameras are great. The xpan tempts me all the time to get back into shooting pano. If only I had an extra $2k around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 You could buy a Mamiya 7/7II with a 43mm lens. When you aren't cropping to pano, you get a 6x7 film.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie_cheung Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I remember a time not too long ago when Keh had bargain outfit for ~1000. Now it seems they go for 1500 plus. Should of bought one then... How much are widelux f7/f8 going for these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_erickson Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Widelux cameras seem to go for around $500-$800 depending on model and condition. The price has come down a bit lately (probably due to the digital revolution). The Widelux is a pretty different animal compared to the XPan, however--fixed focus, 28mm lens only, and rotating panorama lens with curved film plane rather than the flat film plane of the XPan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rab_l Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I was just about to suggest a widelux, 140 degrees field of view. A completely different beast but very good fun, with a very unique look.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_m__toronto_ Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 yeah, i'm not in a 'hurry' to get one. i can wait until a bargain or beater condition comes around. going 6x9 or 67 is also a thought, i'd just need a way to add the framelines. i have a hard time 'seeing' the frame if there arent any guides in the viewfinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joobass Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Hassel X-pan I and II are both were made by Fuji. The same camera sold under fuji name was Tx-1 and Tx-2 X-pan II and TX-2 had slight improvements done on older models(Don't know what I only have expirience with X-pan II) anyway Fuji model was about 20 ~ 30% cheaper and had interchangeables lens with hassel model(I think). The quality was same. So if you are considering X-pan you check up Tx models too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie_cheung Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I like the widelux because of its compactness. The fuji 67/69 and the M7 are great but they aren't small. The widelux is the size of a leica, great for traveling, it's wiiiiiide plus it's a 2.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_m__toronto_ Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 how does the widelux work? i dont understand this 'rotating lens' bit. multiple exposures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Since film is dead, consider the <a href= "http://www.roundshot.ch/xml_1/internet/de/ application/d438/d925/f934.cfm">Seitz</a> pano cam. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie_cheung Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Cool Brad but how long does it take a 1g macbook to process the 310mb file? That's assuming one can afford such beast. Besides, you'll never get that thing pass security check at the airport:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie_cheung Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Matt, just google it. Not multiple ex. The lens rotate basically, letting in light through a slit. Takes 35mm film about 19 shots on a 36 roll. Just smaller than a xpan neg but 140 degrees fov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Taylor Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Matt, when I get back to T.O. you're welcome to borrow my Xpan to take it for a test drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Noblex would be better than Widelux and second hand ones are not that expensive. But swing lens cameras are different from XPan (that is why I have both). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilambrose Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 <p>The going rate for an Xpan II in superb condition w/ 45mm lens is about 1100 GBP; sometimes a little more, but never less. I guess that makes it about 2200 USD at current exchange rate.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey_edelstein1 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 If you want to wind up with the fov of a 24mm lens and this is wide enough for you then the 45mm xpan is fine for you. The Mamiya is a Biogon type design and works out to be a 21mm fov. Of course you can get a 15mm Voigtlander lens and use it on a Leica RF and crop the top and bottom of the frame if you want 110 degree fov that is as wide as the xpan 30mm lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david k. Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Matt, you might want to check this out: http://harrysproshop.com/Hasselblad_Used/hasselblad_used.html David K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_brewton Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Matt, check out Andrea Taurisano's site, http://overexposure.6am.it/andrea/sito.htm You can contact him through the site. Last I heard he still has an Xpan I kit for sale at a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 "(I) have a hard time 'seeing' the frame if there arent any guides in the viewfinder." 1. The only lines you need to worry about with a 6x7 or 6x9 rangefinder are the sides of the frame. You can crop top and bottom to your tastes in Photoshop or make a standard sized print, like 8x12 or 11x14, and simply trim off the top an bottom to get the desired framing. 2. I wouldn't shoot anything but 120 in a Mamiya 7II, but you could shoot 35mm with the 35mm Panoramic Adapter for 24x65mm Images: http://www.mamiya.com/products2.asp?id=1&id2=24&id3=61&id4=1551&id5=1552 "(H)ow does the widelux work? (I) don't understand this 'rotating lens' bit(-) multiple exposures?" The Widelux has a rotating lens turret with a slit shutter, and is a bit tweaky. Here are some pointers on the Widelux from actor Jeff Bridges' website. Bridges has been a Widelux afficianado and accomplished photographer for years: http://www.jeffbridges.com/Widelux.html http://www.photomediagroup.com/archive/2004-spring/bridges.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_erickson Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Here's another widelux shot. Much less flexible than an XPan, but, as described above, fun....<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 <I>Cool Brad but how long does it take a 1g macbook to process the 310mb file? </i><P> Well, I think it expands to a 922MB file internally. Not much room for anything else; like the OS for example.<P> Cool shot Mark... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_m__toronto_ Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 so if the widelux takes different exposures, wouldnt this show up in the frame if there was extreme movement? ie. shooting a race car? ian, when are you back in town? i'd love to take it for a spin :) david, i saw that link yesterday and i just called. no answer. we'll see what's up. sounds like a VERY nice price and it's local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david k. Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Matt, Brian (Lewington) runs the business from his house, so keep calling, he is always there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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