sean_r2 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Well, along with finally registering for Photo.Net, I've decided to try my hand at designing a business card. The content of the text will surely change as soon as I get my business license and website running. In the meantime, I want to figure out a nice graphic design. I've narrowed it down to two designs, and after seeing how incredibly helpful everyone on this site is, I thought I'd ask for your opinions. Thanks.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_r2 Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 The other design.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_sokal___dallas__tx Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I defintely prefer #1 over #2. The fingers in #2 almost look amputated to me. I like the picture of the couple but the card design is overly busy, IMO. Imagine all that shrunk down to business card size. I'm a real fan of simple and clean design, so I'd eliminate the background image and use a simpler font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiva Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Number 1 over Number 2. In number 1 the black and white image does not balance well with the color background. Try again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxyandkaidotcom Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hmmm ... I don't like the pictures or the font or the gradient thing behind the words. I say keep it simple! Easy to read, clean font. Strong, memorable photo. No gradients :) Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_r2 Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 I'm glad now I picked 1 over 2 in the first place. :D As for balancing out the color and black and white image, that was something I struggled with, as I really didn't want a blank white background. In designing this #1, I found that strong, dark colors were far too distracting (purple, blue, red) so maybe it's time to switch to low-intensity hues. Should I try a super light creme color for the background? Or would that coloration also distract from the black and white image (and thus just leave white as the best choice)? Although I love the font, now that it's been pointed out I see how it's a bit busy for a 3.5x2 format. I'll try some stuff along the lines of an italicized Times New Roman. Thanks for the help so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Just a comment about card #2: The image reveals too much trace of your brush used for dodging at the left side of the lower text. Why don't you guys try to make something like text on a BW pic outstanding by selecting another color, foilstamping or partially coating it? Card 1 would be my choice although I'd need time to get used to the washed out red used there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I'd be very careful with respect to printing #1. The thin patterned background border around the photo may get cut asymmetrically during the card's trim process. Since the border element is so thin, any trims that are not perfect will produce borders around the left/top/right sides of the photo of different widths. As those borders are so thin to begin with, slight differences will be readily visible. Better to have the photo bleed off the sides and top - and making sure the subjects are not too close to the left and top edges. Talk to your printer, first. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_r2 Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Sarah: I'm definitely not going with Card #2, now. The irony of the whole thing was working on the gradient was one of the longest processes in designing that card. Jochen: What do you mean by foilstamping and coating? As in, at the printer putting foil or embossing ink into the lettering? Or is that an effect with Photoshop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 To illustrate my point above, a slight (but acceptable from the printer's perspective) trim error durring printing could produce this:<BR><P> <center> <img src= "http://pages.sbcglobal.net/b-evans/Images18/00JNcx-34265384.jpg"> </center> www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tana_minnick Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I don't care for the font, it looks really dated. I also don't care for the fade out roses, it makes it look cluttered and harder to read. How about just black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annealmasy Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hi Sean! I don't really like either card. They both feel much too busy. Remember that business cards are small. You want the information to POP. The overlaying of the images and the outer glows (?) and the text is very confusing. Think in terms of a very, very simple, clean approach, with little room for printer error. (The issue mentioned above re: the trim lines is VERY valid!) <p> Have you considered printing a two-sided card? That would give you more room to organize your information, and image, and perhaps your logo. We have our cards printed by <a href="http://www.overnightprints.com">Overnight Prints</a>, and their quality and pricing is excellent. <p> I suggest that you showcase a full-bleed image on one side of the card, then have your logo and contact information printed simply on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo patrone Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I agree with Tana. Those designs look dated. I'm not a big fan of business cards with pictures on it and specially with fonts glowing. I would say keep it simple and try to come up with a simple but consistent design. There are lots of books about business card designs that you can use for ideas. If you go to a place like Borders you can find those. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_guy2 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Based on my previous post and the responses to it I am obviously not an expert at designing business cards, but I have a couple of thoughts. The trimming is extremely important, expecially if you choose the rounded corners that overnightprints offers. This wil certainly be a problem with #1. Unfortunately their template does not tell you where the cuts will hit so you have to be careful. Other than the previously mentioned amputated fingers in #2 the rings also look out of focus. I realize that this one is out of the running. I think that we both are trying to go for more than just a simple "here is my name and title" business card. We want one with an image that displays the work, almost like a portable website or sample book (I'd love to have several cards with different images). I have seen this successfully done. Some here seem to disagree with that approach. Thats fine. They may be right. As others have mentioned on my post, perhaps a two-sided card would work. Could you put the image from #1 full size on one side and then your business information on the other side. I recognize that the problem with this then is - "Do you just do basic business card formatted text?". I think the answer may be yes. Or maybe you can get somewhat creative with text positioning/formatting. I guess all of this depends on the audience. A more artsy crowd might like the artsy formatted text and image. The average bride/groom might like something else. I'm going to try some "market research" with a few images to some non-photographers. They may completely agree/they may not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwcombs Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 A few rules of thumb for designing your cards: 1 Keep it simple. No borders, no frivilous embellishment. 2 Keep it fresh. Use a font and colors that don't scream 1965. 3 Display some credibility. Having only your name and phone number on a card tells me that you could have printed this thing in the back of your Firebird, ala Jim Rockford. Clients like to know you have a place of business, or at least a post office box for some stability. 4 Cards in landscape mode fit Rolodex and other systems more uniformly, being easier to read and store than verticals. 5 If you can, make the card just a tad bigger than the standard 3.5 x 2 inch card, say to 3.5 x 2.125 inches. That makes it stand out from the others, and it still fits storage and filing systems. 6 If you want, or can, print an image on the back, with more details of what you do and how you do it, in more marketing jargon. Use the front of the card for contact details. 7 Print on heavy stock. It's more durable, and clients remember it over the more lightweight stocks.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anner Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Sean, please know that I mean well. I feel that neither of these cards/designs/photos give the best first impression. The images, in and of themselves, are fairly weak and unpolished. In your case, I would scrap the image idea all together and choose a simple color and layout with a strong and sleek design. A solid color background, in and of itself, will separate your card from that of other business cards that may be roaming around in a potential client's wallet or purse. Create more mystery by not showing an image up front, and getting clients to call you or visit your website (which you really need to have if you're going to be in this business). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bre_garcia Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I agree with the above. Keep it horizontal for people who will file it, and ALWAYS put moer than just your name and number. ANYONE can print that from their home computer. I order most of my cards from www.VistaPrint.com. Not only are they cheap (or free) but the freedom to arrange text & designs is great and the weight & gloss if perfect. I say go with the idea right above my comment. That looks great. Maybe change the color of the font to red to stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anesh Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Neither look good, looks like it's back to the drawing board for you. 1. the b&w pic and red flower is quite ugly to be frank 2. the wrinkly fingers are too stark As others have said, keep it simple, as BW illustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.W. Wall Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 The foregoing looks like good advice, to redesign. Just in case, and I'm no expert, but you might recheck the spelling of quinceanas -- is there really an -er? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelle_rudland1 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 If I might make a suggestion for you and for anyone else interested. I use vistaprint.com for all of my business cards and they are wonderful. Quality, color, etc is excellent, customer service and pricing is excellent as well. Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_r2 Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 A lot of responses and I'm glad for all the help, so I'll respond one-by-one. Brad: Thanks a lot for the trimming metaproblem! I had never even thought about what havoc such a small edge to the card could cause. Anne: I'd seen it suggested here over and over, and yet I hadn't thought of a double-sided card myself. :-/ That is a dang nice idea. In regards to your second post, I rather like the image on the card, but you have a point about trying to direct eyes to a full web gallery. I guess one good point to be made for solid color rather than image on a card is that the client won't make an overall judgment based on a tiny 3.5x2, or smaller, image. Tana and Leo: Yeah, as much as I like the font, gotta agree with you that it looks dated. And I *used* to like that font. Oh well, my trials with simpler, normal fonts is showing Times works really well. Brian: Yeah, I definitely am trying to avoid the simple name & number card. I think what's causing me to clutter it up is my being used to the card of the guy I used to assist. His card had something like 5 images on it, and a busy colored background, to boot! Not that I'm blaming him, just that by comparison one b&w image clashing with colored roses seemed a lot less busy in my mind by comparison. I definitely know better now, and am very glad I posted my ideas here for critique. BW: Thanks a ton for the tips! I absolutely love your sample there, as it beats my Card #1 Mark II that I was working on and what you said about Rolodex filing, it works better there, too. I'm thinking I'll try something like that, with maybe Roman. Personally, I'm not such a fan of sans serif fonts. Then again, if brides like sans over just plain serif, I may have to change my mind. ;-) Anesh: To the drawing board, indeed. The positive point to those two funny designs is that I've learned what *not* to do. Heh. J.W.: It's probably a regional thing, and in fact all the "official" spelling I've seen of it around my part of California is "XV Anos." I was pretty sure the spelled out one was "Quinceanera" though. Michelle: Two recommendations for VistaPrint, and I've seen it recommended and talked about repeatedly in this forum. You know, I just may go with them. Everyone's been a big help. Thanks so much! Looks like after reading these new critiques, I'll be scrapping Card #1 Mark II (looked a lot like Card #1, sans flowers and font). I'll be working on Card #3 and a possible color-only Card #4 as Anne had suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessica_smith9 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 The first one is very girlie. Though you're marketing to brides, I think you should make it as neutral as possbile that way if you meet only a groom the card will be catchy to him as well. The third pic you posted works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessica_smith9 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 PS: The card that BW posted is the best in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenseay Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I ordered 2000 business cards (of two different types) for myself from www.overnightprints.com on Monday night and received them in the mail today (Thursday). I'm really pleased with them and with the prices - $39.95 per 1000. Here's the image I used:<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxyandkaidotcom Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 You got your overnight prints cards today??? I ordered mine on the 28th and the tracking says they won't be here until next week. I'm a little irked about that. Oh, well I like the B&W card with the sans serif font that someone up there did for you. Go with something like that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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