yellowwoodguiding Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Thanks to a very nice Christmas bonus from my boss I was able to pick up a used Nikkor 500mm f4 P in excellent condition. I just upgraded my tripod head to Acra-Swiss B1, and currently have it on a Bogen 3221GN. Now for the smaller Sigma 170 - 500 with camera and tc the Bogen was very stable, but with this new monster Nikkor I've come to understand why the Bogen 3221 and related lines are not noted for being extremely strudy. The tripod legs wobble like a fishing pole, and they also twist adding a lot of unwanted motion to the lens. Please not I've read everything I can find on proper long lens technique. Nose is jammed into the body, hand on top of the lens to focus of course and to dampen vibration. What I would like is the equivilent of the Gitzo 1548 (without column) but have it in alumnium. What model would that be? On B&H I've found the G-1505, what's the general concensus on this model? I do need something with legs that will have an indenpent leg spread, and can get down to nearly level for macro stuff as well. If not the 1505, whats the recommended Gitzo that is sturdy enough to handle a 12lb rig on the B1 head, that is not carbon fiber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two23 Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 FWIW, I've successfully used the Nikon 500mm f4 P on my Gitzo 1325 tripod. It costs a bit less and is a bit lighter. Whatever you do, do NOT go cheap on the tripod. Kent in SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_tanner Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 The answer can be found in a great book I am curreently reading by Arthur Morris "The Art of Bird Photography" pg 94\95 gitzo 410 with upper wing locks he specifically reference this lens You really need to own or read this book before you buy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowwoodguiding Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 John, Arthur has a new book on CD Birds as Art II, it didn't get published, but I plan on getting it very soon. I've looked into the 1410 before, and the legs don't fold out to wider positions. Since I go from birds to macro in 10 feet of trail I've come to find a tripod that can get down low with the likes of alpine tundra flowers, I need legs that get really low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 The 1505 is a 4-section tripod, and is the closest to the 4-section carbon 1548. The leg angles on the Tele Studex tripods have three positions, and extend nearly flat. This is one big, heavy (9#) tripod. You have no idea how big until you get your hands on one. I have a 1504, which weighs 12.5 pounds, used mainly with a 20# video camera. My observation is that a Gitzo CF tripod is not only lighter than aluminum tripods in its class, but nearly as stiff as the next larger series. While you can't go wrong with a 1505, you should look closely at a 1325. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_smith3 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I concur with Kent. I use the Gitzo 1325 with my Nikon 500mm f 4.0 P lens with a Wimberly model I gimbal head. I used to use a Bogen 3221 with a Kirk BH-1 ball head with the 500mm. The 3221 was not sturdy enough. I tried a friends Gitzo 1340, the metal version of the 1325 and found it to be OK, but when I tried a 1325, I found the CF model to be lighter and sturdier, so I bought the 1325. I am glad I did. If you want aluminum, here are your Gitzo choices(model number and weight of the tripod): 1340, 6.4 lbs; 1410, 8.4 lbs, and the 1500, 9.5 lbs. None has a center column. Lugging around 9.5 pounds of tripod could restrict your use of the lens. I would get the 1410. Joe Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_smith3 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 All of the aluminum models will get low for macro work--between 4.3 in to 7.5 in depending on the model. All of the models I recommended are three legs extensions. I prefer the ones with fewer extensions. The 1505 has 4 vs 3 for the 1500. The 1325 is carbon fiber, weighs 4.5 lbs and gets to 4.3 inches off the ground for macro work. This minimum height is the same as the 1340's. Joe Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Like many others, I use a 500mm/f4 AF-S on a Gitzo 1325 without any problems. The non-AF P version, which I used to have, is a bit smaller and lighter. The 1325 should be more than sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I used a Bogen/Manfrotto aluminum tripod for years (I forget the model # but it was pretty much standard). It was OK for lenses up to a 400 f.5.6, but when I bought my 500P f/4 it was not rigid enough. (Especially with a 1.4X TC.) The Gitzo CF tripods had just come out and I found a new 1228 for under $400. I have been using it ever since with the BH-1 head and Sidekick. Except in high winds it has never let me down, and I have dragged it over most of the US, Mexico and S. America. If I were to choose today, I would probably select the 1227, or its current equivalent, as it goes slightly higher and is faster to set up, having 3 sections rather than 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowwoodguiding Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 Thank you for all your experience and advise. After a lot of looking, and realizing that the 1410 does have multible angles to go down to 7" or so, I went onto Ebay. Amazingly there was a 1410 in mint condition ending today which I won and saved $50. John and Joseph, I shall hold you both accountable for every imagine out of focus, even though now its probably going to be me not getting those little bird eyes razor sharp. So now, after spending all that money on an amazing 500mm f4 P, new Acra swiss head, and now a very sturdy gitzo I suppose I should start taking some pictures. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelaMolnar Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 The Bible said; "In the beginning . . . . . " Yesss! In the beginning I had a Manfroto, chipy, then a bigger Manfroto, then a same size Gitzo CF, and, then I realized how stupid I was. If I am more clever, I would buy a god tripod in the "beginning" and the new Gitzo Q 1505 MK2 aluminum tripod would cost me mach, mach less in the end, buying all those useless tripods. Even the big Gitzo, not enough if I mounted a 500mm lens on it.( I have the biggest Gitzo ball head on it. ) ( I'm planing to buy the biggest and heaviest CF tripod.) . . . . . My advise to you, to buy the biggest tripod you can carrying, or hire a person to carry your tripod for you, and save many for it. And you going to be happy ever after. The carbonfibre is better then aluminum, dumping the vibration more, them the aluminum, and lighter to carry. Do not cry, to spend Over 1000.00 dollar for it. It is more important, then anything else. Make no compromise or your life going to be miserable. Cheers; Bela Molnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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