chris_chen Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Does anyone besides me carry along a MF camera as part of your regular travel kit? <p> I do, it's the famous hasselblad SWC CT*, which BTW Hassy DID NOT improve in its latest new release!!! <p> Seems that the design is so good that it can't be improved on. <p> This was first designed in 1954! So, "old" lens design is not necessarily obsolete. <p> It does have a steep learning curve, though. <p> I'm keeping ALL of my chrome lenses, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_molloy3 Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 it was a trip to thailand last june with a rollei 6008i that made me buy a leica. it was too big and noisy and generally unwieldy. the results i got were good, but who knows what else i missed because of it). i think if i were to do it again i would try the 6x6 mamiya rangefinders. but i try to use one camera-to keep it simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I don't use it often, but I have a Rolleicord Vb that I use for portraits when I know I'm going big. I chose this model because the Xenar lens seems to have much the same character as my early Leica glass, and I find I can intermingle prints and retain cohesion of look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I do have a Hasselblad outfit consisting of 2 503CX bodies, 40CFE, 50FLE, 80CF, 150CF and a 2xMutar and I use it whenever I am shooting mainly landscapes and long hikes are not required. I used to use an M4+21/3.4 along with the Blad before I bought the 40CFE, and I usually bring my Minilux just in case I want to do some casual shooting. I've also been known to tote my Rolleiflex along with a specialized 35mm wildlife outfit just in case a landscape pops up. But under no circumstances would I carry both 35 and MF at the same time...with backups and all it would be just too much gear to carry and keep track of, let alone the confusion at shooting time. BTW the 905SWC is supposed to have better internal antireflection treatment in the lens, as well as an improved shutter mainspring a la CFi lenses. I debated long and hard on the SWC vs 40FLE issue...until I actually tried them both. Optically I couldn't see any advantage to the Biogon (I don't do architecture or interiors with it)and the distorting, inaccurate finder and/or fussing with a GG back was just *way* more trouble, not to mention it doesn't have TTL flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflesher Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Chris: It depends on the kind of traveling I'm doing... I used to do foreign travel everywhere with either a Mamiya 645 Pro with multiple backs, or two Mamiya 7's. I would then add my 4x5 for "domestic" travel. Now I use my Leicas almost exclusively for foreign travel, and add my Contax 645 for domestic destinations. (I sold the Mamiya 645 and 7's a few years back, and just recently got the C 645, and rarely bother with 4x5 any more) <p> Now, regarding your SWC... I am curious about your comment that the new one wasn't an improvement -- everybody I know that upgraded claims it was -- can you expand on that for me? I have been looking for an MF ultrawide (with better optics and much more compact than the 35 for the Contax) and the SWCM is one on my radar -- and I cannot justify the cost of the new version. I have also considered another M7 with the 43 attached, and in fact I wish I had kept that combo as it had superb optics -- it also has the bennefit of being Leica-like; a Plaubel "pro-shift"; and even a Linhof 612 with the 58 or 65 on it. <p> I would apprecitae your and others comments on this. <p> Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_marvin Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 My normal travel kit consists of 2 screw mount Leicas with 6 lenses. I'll usually also carry a Rolleiflex TLR or (less frequently) a Kodak Medalist II. When I'm out shooting, I'll carry either the Leica kit or thye MF camera (most often with a tripod, for landscapes, w/MF). NEVER both--my back couldn't take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_chen Posted March 27, 2002 Author Share Posted March 27, 2002 Jack, The comment of not being able to improve performance comes from Hasselblad themselves, specifically Kornelius Fleischer (sp?); it's on their web-site. It is also within Photo.net MF forum. It seems Hassy went to enviro-friendly processes to produce glass that did not involve lead or arsenic. While true, Hassy claims a better/stronger shutter and anti-reflectant internal surfaces, OPTICALLY, it wasn't improved: <p> Lower central performance in return for better edge performance. If I remember correctly. <p> As to price: I use the version previous to the CF (which I also have)because I find it a slightly more compact all metal construction; and it has a self timer for under $2000. It is one cool camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_mason Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 ??The older SW has a self timer? Didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflesher Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Chris: Thanks! <p> Jay: How do you filter the FLE, specifically with SND's? This is similar to one big issue I have with the 35 for my Contax; it takes E95 filters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I have an old Hasselblad 500CM with 50, 80 and 150 chrome lenses (2 are T*). It is a great camera, but I do not carry it with my Leica if I can help it. It gets too confusing. Great camera, but processing is always an issue as is printing with MF, so I use it much less than I thought I would when I got it. I use it for weddings, landscapes and "arty" pictures. I would like the SWC. I too am not convinced there are any really substantial differences between the old T* lenses and the current set whatever Zeiss/Hasselblad say. (FLE is maybe an exception) but obviously I have not exhaustively tested them. A beautiful camera that takes wondeful pictures. I virtually always use mine on a tripod or monopod, so it is a different ballgame to the Leica. <p> There is much less to say about many MF optics as most of the Zeiss or Mamiya designs are reasonably old. I assume there is not sufficient demand for them to be updated optically speaking, given the numbers sold. Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy_thomas Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I carry a Rolleiflex 2.8F in addition to my leica kit (m4-p w/ 35 summicron asph + 50 summicron dual range; R6.9 w. 90mm summicron). I use the TLR for portraits and scenes where i'm not in as much of a hurry. I have a lot of fun using the Rolleiflex, and it is a key part of my kit (although i need to use it more). I also like having it along because i like the option of composing in a square where appropriate. Additionally, when I get a flash, flash sinc at 1/500 will be another benefit of using the rolleiflex. <p> jeremyT<a href="http://www.lifeinblue.com">www.lifeinblue.com</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_chen4 Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I've successfully used a Super Ikonta B as a medium format traveling companion (it's now being CLA'ed). Bertele's 21mm Biogon design is a indeed a classic. I occasionally carry around a "mini SWC" outfit--the original 21/4.5 CZ Biogon (c.1955) semi-permanently mounted on 1 of my Contax IIa's--but have yet to master the superwide <A HREF=" http://not.contaxg.com/files/0017/27mhptrumpeters_.jpg">viewpoint</A>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hughes Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Chris: <p> While I don't travel with MF gear, I do use it occasionally. My choices are the Pentax 67 with 55mm, 105mm and 200mm lenses and a Rolleiflex 3.5E with the Planar lens. The Pentax makes great big 6x7cm negs and is noisy and heavy. The Rollei makes great big 6x6cm negs, is light, quiet and not conducive to action. I just sold my Hassy 500C/M. My actual travel kit is a Nikon FM2n w/28 and 50mm Lenses. I have travelled in Britain with my M6 and a 35mm 'Cron., but I was too careful with it. Good question, by the way. <p> Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiblanke Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I sometimes take myonly Leica-rival with me, a chinese camera 'great wall DF-4'. Why Leica-rival ? Because it has a sturdiness that reminds you of leica, about the same age and most important, accepts leica screw mount lenses !!! <br> Unfortunately the lens-to-film distance is quite different, so the only distance you might find an original Leica lens useful is that of some cm. <br> It is quite an odd-looking 6x6 SLR (including a 645 mask), with a coated 90/3.5 lens that I got very cheap (35$). Still takes nice pictures and forces you to work very careful: <img src="http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display? photo_id=413700&size=md"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_chen Posted March 27, 2002 Author Share Posted March 27, 2002 It's in my small bag w/M6 & 35 or 50 'cron, so I meter w/M6 and shoot with both. The front flap of the bag holds my Minolte Flashmeter III. I carry an M3 with the 35 or 50 that is not on the M6 in a separate bag solo, and occasionally the 90 TE in my pocket, that's it. <p> I have the 21 SA, but it gets less-and-less use. I would use it more if I can find that darn rear cap. Basically, it's "welded" to my M4 for that reason, and doesn't get carried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonid Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I am proud to say that I am one of the few people on earth who uses a graflex xlsw ( with pistol grip and sport finder ! ) . If I could afford it , I would get the plaubel makina pro shift as a replacement . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_fleetwood Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 A $60 Yashica D TLR is my MF travel camera. It has an old Gossen Pilot meter in the shoe. Kind of clunky, but it is light and takes nice photos. Love those big square negatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f._william_baker Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Besides my Leica M's, I always carry my Rolei 2.8F Planar TLR. It takes up a lot less room than my Hasselblad and is certainly more quiet and is razor sharp. F. William Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfrey Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I occasionally carry a medium format camera along with my other gear in a travel kit. No longer an SLR, sometimes a Rolleiflex TLR, a Super Ikonta folder or a Fuji GA645. <p> I'd love a Hassy SuperWide, have always wanted one. Love that lens. <p> Godfrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_georg_wolf Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Had a ROLLEIFLEX SL 66 SE (with only a 80 mm lens) for the last 5 years alongside my LEICA gear. After usinng it less and less I sold it two weeks ago. So far without regretting it at all. But I do not need my photography to make my living. Professional equipment should inclide larger format cameras. And digital by now I´am afraid. <p> Best wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Someday...! <p> I haven't used MF since I went to digital darkroom - no scanner. Even a $60 Yashica-D would cost me $3060 - since I'd also have to buy a scanner that handles 6x6. 8^( <p> Sold my last MF - Kowa and 3 lenses - to get my first pro-grade inkjet printer. <p> Once I get the Leica/35mm system stabilized I'll look into it. Probably I'll end up with a Rollei TLR - but possibly a not-too-recent SWC if I can find one for $2000 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_ouyang Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I used Rolleiflex3.5F quite often when I lived in New York. It's muchquieter than my M2, most of time I can aim at people directly withoutbeing noticed with the waist level finder and quieter shutter. Theproblem is it's size and the square format, also hard to make it exactlevel when doing grab shot. Even with lens hood on, I got flareproblem often.I don't do it any more, Leica M is a more convenient tool for weekendamateurs like me, especially in California. For resolution, just takea look of Salgado's work, enlargement to 30 or 36 is not an issue for35mm film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I use a Pentax 645 system in addition to Leicas (and a few other things), but I tend to leave it at home unless I have good reason to believe I'll use it. I don't have a "regular travel kit"--my expected needs tend to dictate what I carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_yeowell Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I shoot in the main with either a Hasselblad 500cm and three lenses, 60/100/180 or a Mamiya 7 and two lenses, 43 & 65 and sometimes all together with maybe an M6 or two as well, just depends on the assignment. I certainly agree with comments on the quality of the SWC Hassy having owned 3 of them but don,t rule out the Mamiya 7 with 43mm as it,s actually at least the equal optically with an extra cm!!There is a difference in colour rendition however, but both are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b.2 Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 1955-era Rolleiflex TLR with a great 75mm f/3.5 Xenar lens. I also use the 35mm adapter called the Rolleikin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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