geert_de_keyser1 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 instead of using a rollfilmback i have opted to use masks on the GG, i know ican make them myself but i don't want to for various reasons, so no need for"rollfilmbacks lovers" and "DIY mask makers" to try to evangelize me, notbecause this option is neceserally the "best one" but since i have already cometo the conclusion that buying masks will suit my working and operating style best btw, i use a sinar p camera (4x5, 5x7, 8x10) i've searched around and it seems to me that i have two options: or i use thesinar vario mask or i use the set of masks made by Lightware. The vario maskcosts about the double ($100 instead of $50) but that's not really an issue. TheSinar Vario has the advantage of one size fits all but since the differences insize are marked by two small orange plastic tubes sliding to various positionsinside the 6x12 frame i'm worried that seeing a portion of what falls outsideoff the image will be distracting. The advantage over the Lightware masks arethat the Vario will be easily positioned and will stay in place without the"funtak" that is needed according to the Lightware website to keep those masksin place. What are your findings in using both? Are there other mask options? Another question on the mask thing! I don't seem to be able to find some masks being sold voor 5x7 and 8x10 sinargroundglasses. Am I not looking properly or will I be forced to DIY here? any help is welcome, thx in advance - pics of sinar vario: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7627959782 - pic of the 9 mask Lightware set:http://www.lightwareinc.com/site/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.product_display&Prod_ID=242&Cat_Name=GripStrip&Cat_ID=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_pistor Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Hi Geert, actually the lightware stuff looks a lot like what you had if you'd DIY. Whereas you refrain this, the sinar Vario disadvantage of distracting "out of picture"-view is praised as the essential feature of many rangefinder-users. It's a matter of taste and individuality if you can use it, or find it distracting. Why are no 5x7 and 8x10 masks around? pretty simple, what format do you want to mask down to? If you go down, you take a reduction back or a format converter with according glass and holders. The issue to mask individual formats from the larger ones is so uncommon, no manufacturer saw a benefit in adressing this non-market. Maybe for 4x10 panoramics? See, the holder will be customized anyway. Regards, Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geert_de_keyser1 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 maybe DIY is the best option, all i need is a 6x12 mask on 4x5, the biggest square i can get out of 4x5, a 6x17 out of 5x7, etc... it's scary how quickly my thinking can change, thx for the response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_dickerson Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Geert, Horseman used to make a set of masks that were/are transparent so you can see the whole ground glass with the format (6x7, 6x9, 6x12) clearly deliniated. I use mine under the fresnel on a Sinar F-1 and I think I bought them from B&H. Joe D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capocheny Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Geert, There's a seller that pops up every so often marketing sets of masks on E**y for a very reasonable price. They're transparent and you just cut them to fit your screen. No muss, no fuss! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_walsh1 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Geert, I've used both and currently own a set of the Lightware masks - Ive found the Lightware masks in that one can be funtacked to GG and a 2nd one used for cropping a polaroid. Like most photo gizmos they are overpriced but I've never had much success carving accurate formats from black matt board and compared to anything Sinar the Lightware is almost a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geert_de_keyser1 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 thx for the advice i'm sorry for my lack in englisch but what does "funtacking to the groundglass" mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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