phil_kneen Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 That's very kind John,Thankyou.The thing I like about this forum is there isn't a group of people who stick together to massage each others egos.Everyone flames everyone!I could say that my camera is black and I know that at least 1 person would disagree. <p> My 'photo-exchange'project may not have seemed like a sound plan to some,but plans have been made and airline tickets have been payed for.It has been in the pipeline for months,I didn't just wake up one day last week and think "I have an idea,think I'll post it on the Leica forum".I would also like to add that a few of my posts have been placed by 'another Phil Kneen'if you get my drift.I work all day and as I have said to someone privately-I look forward to getting home to see what my 'alter-ego'has written.If you do need proof I was in the back of a police van for 2 days last week......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henri_cartier_bresson Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Well, Dave, if you're pleased with those snaps then I suggest you need a long rest. You're capable of far better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrani Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Sure I'd go to one of your exhibits, David. I just hope you wouldn't be showing that snap of the blurry car and the lightpost, or the woman in red against the wall, that's all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlegaspi Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 <p><i>Try to accept that I disagree with you on this one.</i></p> <p>to each his own, i guess. ok, we'll leave it as that.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve12 Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 All of this to prove what we've all known for a long time; once the press tells the public that you are good/talented, you are. Submitted as examples; Brittany Spears, Any Warhol, Julia Roberts, Geraldo Rivera. <p> Harvey can produce crap just like the rest of us. Just because he can produce quality as well, and works for NG doesn't change that. <p> What about Steve McCurry? Takes the picture of the Afghan girl and now everything he touches some people think is life fulfilling. <p> (As an aside on McCurry I saw on NG Explorer a few weeks back a segment on him scurrying around New York right after 9/11. One scene had him photographing in a Mosque. The Mosque leaders each had a copy of the NG with the picture of the girl on the cover. Can you believe this guy? 14 years after that issue and he still hands it out to gain access. Must be tough to have your best stuff long behind you. But no tears from me, he's well paid for everything he does which proves my initial point.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfie wang Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Hey there. Don't insult Julia Roberts. I like her a lot and to put her in the category with Britney Spears is horrific. I enjoyed Pretty Woman and Ocean's Eleven. <p> About Steve McCurry I can partially agree. But at least, he's not complaining about his lifestyle. If he can evoke emotion in lots of people that's a good thing I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_gold Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 One thing I noted in this "I HATE DAH" tirade is lack of intimacy,fresh viewpoints and lack of various films.The pictures are close-up and personal.Sit and study them.I have purchased used NGS, torn the pictures out and placed them on a wall.I se the whole layout as well.I've done it for a few DAH stories.His work is stunning. True I too like most of you,use the Leica box.I am amazed at his composition,the angles,the feeling you are there!Why should he have different colors because of different films?... My photographs published and appreciated worlwide BUT not in the league of DAH also lack impact!!!Thats what you dislike. They the images are timeless.You can look at them over and over. I find new things all the time. I have learnt by studying photos,not the "tech data".Try feel where he stood,his position,the light,and finally the moment of push the button.Stop thinking like the advertisers trying to sell more lenses. I know from teaching,the ZOOM,is possibly one of the worst things a photographer with limited experience can purchase.There is never a real Viewpoint. Ease up and try it for yourself.One lens,one body for a couple of months...its real fun.I can take my rig anywhere.I use the 50mm mostly.Occasionally the 135mm.Thats about as long as I can really hold steady. Anyway gave me insight to why I work the way I do....I enjoyed all the fire and storm.Its healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrani Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Jason, believe me, I have tried the one lens thing for extended periods of time (6 months with the 50, 2 months with the 24) and for me it doesn't work. I need the change of rhythm and that's something I don't see in DAH's work very much. For me, it's the 24 and the 35. <p> Personally I have no opinion on the film he uses or anything else. I look at his pictures and I think they often fail to meet the high standards I'd expect of such a celebrated photographer. When he's good he's very very good. But not always. This recent set of pictures bears this out, to me at least. I think they're lazy and uninteresting, with the exception of the wedding fever picture. <p> As for DAH smacking me in the face because I don't like his snaps sometimes as another poster suggested, do you really think he cares what an unknown like me thinks of his pictures? I doubt it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 Well I think his photos are perfectly OK, but nothing thrilling. I do feel that I probably could have done this pretty well like him under these circumstances. That is OK, even superb photographerss cannot make great pictures if there are not any. Perhaps he could have got closer,used different film or used faster film or flash more effectively, but who knows, we were not there to see what opportunities it presented (or lacked). I think it is a bit hard to call them "crap". I am sure Harvey would never consider these his best work, but then I suspect this subject hardly inspired him either. Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_nutter Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 As a press photographer, I think Harvey had the same problem I often have when I go on an assignment.......lots of times you've got to get in and out in ten minutes. Harvey is a great photog and obviously he didn't spend a whole lot of time in Elkton, MD. Another consideration might be for the picture editing here. Was he present for that, or was he on his way back to cuba? These photos are not the best work of Harvey or the Magazine, but sometimes goodenough has to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halldor_thormar Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 Hmmm... <p> I think the NG staff messed it up a bit. I do not believe he used flash, 1/15 and f:1.4 for every single one of these pictures. The depth of field is too much for f:1.4 and there are no evidence of flash in some of the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_j Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 Lots of nitwits in this thread. No, being the only literate doesn't necessarily make you a great writer, but the illiterates aren't in a position to judge it either way. As for the particular nitwit that referred to the "uberwide," Harvey uses a 35mm 90% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee guthrie Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I have found this thread a few years late but DAH has been a good teacher, mentor, and has helped me to transform as a photographer. He has such talent and he can teach you without saying a word. His approach to photography and editing is excellent. Yea! David, you are with the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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