savas_kyprianides Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 What focal length TS-E lens will be suitable for small table top products, such as software boxes and the like? As to strobes, what is a suitable power to get? I have read that some are so powerful that they can easily overpower 35 mm cameras even when stopped down. I have been using hot lights for some time now and look forward to the appearance that flash will afford.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_dickerson Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Savas, Are you shooting film or digital? If film the TS-E 90 would be the best bet. If digital full frame or 1.6x? I would still tend to use the 90mm with digital although the 45mm would work as well. Get the most powerful strobe you can afford (580EX?). You can always move it farther from the subject if it's putting out too much light. FYI, hot lights in an appropriate modifyer (soft box) will be indistiguishable from strobe and it will be easier to pre-visualize the results. Joe D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 You can only do limited correction with a T/S lens. You would nee a full complement of bellows movement to do it properly. If you are doing that sort of shoots and you must have the best/most correction and focus look into the Horseman VC adapter, or the Calumet bellows for 35mm/DSRL. But, for boxes and products such as you describe they would look "compressed" if the perspective was corrected. Is that what you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken munn Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I woukld have thought it easier, nowadays, to correct the perspective in a program like PhotoShop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike butler Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 The 90 t/s was pretty much made for product photography. Sure, it can't do everything a view camera can, but it can do quite a bit. You might be able to rent one if you live near a big city. If you're digital, you might want to have a look at the Alien Bee 400, adding a medium size softbox to it. Losing e-ttl isn't a big deal if you get instant feedback and have a flash meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_white2 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I use the 90mm TS-E and a light tent with the 5D foro small items. For larger item, a foot or so square and up, I use the 45 TS-E and a larger tent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 >>correct the perspective in a program like PhotoShop.<< PS can do some correction however, your cropping/framing will change as the pixels as stretched. I use an Hartblei 80mm T/S Super Rotator which works quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abouddweck Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I just got the TS-E 90 for use with my 5D. It is the perfect perspective for tabletop, although on the aps format it may be a bit long. Of course the biggest advantage for tabletop is the depth of field with the tilt. I'm also using it for landscape , being able to raise or lower the image without adjusting the height of my camera. A very cool, yes expensive, but cool toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savas_kyprianides Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 Thanks for the helpful responses. I will be getting a 5D. The example was shot with my current camera, an Olympus E-10, the subject under a Rifa light - a hot soft box. Those who know of the E-10 know it is old news and deficient in lens choice (none), aperture, shutter and ISO. Objects will vary from around 4� square to perhaps 36� square or thereabouts. Mostly, it will be small objects. What got me started into the flash aspect was reading the instructional material in this forum. Seeing how photographers describe an object with light and bring to the fore certain characteristics of a given subject. The photo I posted was morbidly dim to begin with and took post processing to liven it up a bit. The forum instructional described how with proper stobes I can stop down for depth and obtain sufficient light. I will get a 580EX, but am thinking if more than one, proper studio strobes and stands will be more flexible for still life use. I sense that a properly lit object might overcome any sense of flattening that might occur, as someone mentioned above. I would not want to pull the light away from subject so as to create a harsh light source. As to photoshop correction, I would like to make the perspective as best as I can in camera for the reason stated above. I guess I will need to rent a lens, as one poster mentioned, with the idea that perhaps the correction will not be assured or sufficient with a Canon lens. As for Canon, I am learning here that a 90mm is good to start with and perhaps a 45mm as an adjunct if the requirement comes about. I will go and learn about the non- Canon lens solutions mentioned here as well. Once again, thanks for the assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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