john_sarsgard1 Posted November 10, 2000 Share Posted November 10, 2000 I've been using PMK with rollfilm (TX and HP5+) for some time. About ready to take the plunge also with 4x5 HP5+. Gordon Hutchings in The Book of Pyro recommends against using hangers. But...I've gotten very attached to them. I know there are many different opinions on hangers, but I love 'em! I will break down and try them myself, but just wanted to ask whether anybody else already has, and how it worked out. I have the hangers with holes all around the outside for good flow. Anybody trying this? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh2 Posted November 12, 2000 Share Posted November 12, 2000 This might help you. <p> http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002Pdw <p> josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_fraser1 Posted November 12, 2000 Share Posted November 12, 2000 Hangers can cause streaking at the film edges, especially with PMK. Learn to develop sheet film in trays. It's not as scary in reality as people think. Practice with scrap sheets until you can do it without scratching any of them. Tray development provides completely even developing. You don't need a Jobo; you don't need a goofy plastic rig to hold the sheets. You just need practice. Do NOT put your bare hands into pyro! Use latex gloves available from any pharmacy. Also, use a pre-soak, otherwise the tanning action of the pyro will permanently bond the sheets together if you just put them dry into the developer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh2 Posted November 12, 2000 Share Posted November 12, 2000 Micheal, What if your afraid of the dark?-J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_clark13 Posted November 13, 2000 Share Posted November 13, 2000 I have used film holders in 2000 mil tanks with great success. Ihave settled on a simpler idea. Take one film holder, and bend thehandle 90 degrees creating a "L" shaped holder. Place the film emulsion up in the holder and use a 8X10 or 4X5 tray. The holder does a excellent job with PMK, and you can keep your fingers out of the chemical. I beleive that having the emulsion faced up preventsabrasion from the tray bottom, and results in better PMK flow overthe emulsion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_fraser1 Posted November 14, 2000 Share Posted November 14, 2000 Do you mean 'hangers?' I hope you are not bending film holders; seems rather difficult, especially if you want to later use them in the camera again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_sarsgard1 Posted November 15, 2000 Author Share Posted November 15, 2000 Thanks to everyone for the input. John Clark...curious about your use of the bent hanger. Sounds great for one at a time...or four up, for 4x5 using that kind of hanger, but why did you stop using the larger tank? Doing 6 or 8 at a time sounds good. Did you have any problem with streaking at the edges? Thanks! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_clark13 Posted November 15, 2000 Share Posted November 15, 2000 My only complaint with using hangers/tank was once and a while I would nick/cut my emulsions. The bent hanger method results in perfect development without the risk of cuts. I can easily hold two of these holders with on hand using a 8X10 tray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_clark11 Posted November 15, 2000 Share Posted November 15, 2000 Oh BTW, With the holders/tank/PMK I lifted them out once every 15 seconds, tilting the one corner up. I alternated by tilting the oposite direction the next cycle. I only noticed streaking when I was too aggressive with the agitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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