angus_ngtg Posted June 19, 2001 Share Posted June 19, 2001 Hi folks, <p> I am thinking of purchasing a 21/3.4 Super Angulon and wanted to get an idea what owners of this lens think about it's performance. Any comments would be helpful. <p> Thanks T. Gallagher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted June 19, 2001 Share Posted June 19, 2001 Tom, the lens does vignette, not only when wide open, as often stated, but even at somewhat smaller apertures. The vignetting at, say, f/5.6 will not be noticed with black and white, or even with most color shots. But When a color shot includes some blue sky all the way across the frame, the blue still becomes significantly deeper as you go towards the edges. Otherwise, the lens is sharp and I'm satisfied with mine. Of course, you can't meter with it on the M6, which can be a nuisance at times. <p> Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto_watson_garc_a Posted June 19, 2001 Share Posted June 19, 2001 Tom I have one of those and I´m quite please whit it, about vignette it is as Bob´s just said, but since I mostly do b&w it is not a big deal; you can borrow mine when ever you like so you can test it for a wile.Best regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted June 19, 2001 Share Posted June 19, 2001 Just to make sure, you're referring to the M version, not the R version. The M version is exactly as the others have said. The R version is the same lens in a different mount. But it can only be used on the original Leicaflex which had a provision for locking the mirror up. The newer R bodies can only pre-release the mirror, not permanently lock it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_collier5 Posted June 19, 2001 Share Posted June 19, 2001 Great lens but is really only an f/4 lens as it flares too much wide open. Amazing what a half stop can do. It has astonishingly low levels of distortion. I eventually sold mine as I found the slow speed too limiting and saved my pennies for a 21/2.8A. If the f/4 limitation is not a problem why not consider the Viogtlander 21/4? It is, by all reports, a great lens and so inexpensive you could buy three or four of them for the price of one 21/3.4. <p> Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflesher Posted June 19, 2001 Share Posted June 19, 2001 John: <p> I really prefed your "Voitina" moniker. You should trademark it and sell it to Voightlander/Cosina! <p> Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflesher Posted June 19, 2001 Share Posted June 19, 2001 and I'm a world-class speller! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflesher Posted June 19, 2001 Share Posted June 19, 2001 and, I'm a world-class speller! Why do I never notice the mistakes until after I click the submit button? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflesher Posted June 19, 2001 Share Posted June 19, 2001 and how come the clicks that don't look like they went through, go through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted June 20, 2001 Share Posted June 20, 2001 Please remember too that all super wides (and maany other lenses for that matter) will vignette to some degree at wider apertures - its a law of optics - so not all of the vignetting is a defect - its fact of lens construction. Still some are better than others, no doubt about that. Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_collier5 Posted June 20, 2001 Share Posted June 20, 2001 Vignetting is one area where a retrofocus design is better than a symetrical design such as the 21/3.4. <p> Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted June 20, 2001 Share Posted June 20, 2001 Right. Two things you can say in favor of retrofocus lenses: <p> 1. Even illumination across the field. <p> 2. Sometimes it's nice to be able to see what you're doing in the finder. Although with a reflex camera, you have to give up being surprised when you get your film back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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