mozart 2 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I am considering the purchase of a Minox 35mm camera for my son-in- law, who is a truck driver, but who is also becoming very interested in photography. I thought that this small compact camera would be very appropriate for his on the road experiences and for any other type of quick candid shots he might wish to make. Since we are giving he and our daughter a refurbished Canon A-1 with a few lenses to begin their family photography - they are soon to be parents, I think that the addition of a Minox 35mm camera would be an added treat for him and his on the road experiences. Unfortunately, it has been a long time since I worked in a camera shop - decades - and I am not currently up to date on the better models - reliability, performance, etc. of the various compact Minox models. Any thoughts or shared experiences will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_slater Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I can tell you without hesitation to not get a kiev 35 as a cheap replacement. I wanted a small pocket camera and liked the minox 35's. I bought a kiev 35, it lasted one roll. I ended up getting a olympus xa2 and am now quite happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Minox 35ML, Minox GT-E, GT-E2, GT-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpolaski Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Ditto Martin. If my ML ever totally failed, I'd probably replace it with another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subminiature Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 <p>The Kiev 35A is very good and very cheap, unfortunately even a new one may have problems. The one I have, which is new, gives the same readings under all light conditions. There is also doubts about getting one that is light tight.<br><br>A GT or any of the later models are good and usually reliable. See</p><p><a href="http://www.submin.com/35mm/collection/minox">http://www.submin.com/35mm/collection/minox</a></p><p>ML, MB, Touring, MDC models have LED readings for the shutter speed, the other models use a swinging needle. As personal preferance I prefer the ML for this reason; among others.</p><p>The Minox 35mm has no built in flash and so you factor that in - more cost and more to carry. Any second hand camera may also need servicing; many have been left unused for a decade and a simply cleaning of contacts may be sufficient and then they last years without problems. Also being plastic you can't leave it where the sun may heat it up and a cab or car are hostile places to keep a camera.</p><p>I would also consider a Minox M*142 as this camera is sold for $40 has an excellent lens and being brand new comes with warranty. This are old stock. I have also picked up CD112 and CD70 for even less, brand new. I prefer the size of the CD150, but that is much more money (120EURO).</p><p>For a camera to carry and for which the biggest lost is the current film look at the large number of near mint APS cameras. A Canon Ixus II or III is under $40, more if complete with original packaging. they are made of metal (still a lot of plastic parts) have zoom and built in flash. </p><p><a href="http://www.submin.com/aps/collection">http://www.submin.com/aps/collection</a></p><p>Film is more expensive to process, but they are so compact and neat that you will not leave it behind and can take photographs any time the opportunity arises. Some photographers are buying them to carry in the car in case of accident, even cheap ones (e.g. Minolta GX-2 for $8) even thought they don't really like the format. Short length films also mean you can get processing more frequently - more cost, but also more fun.</p><p>If size is not an issue I would select the 35ML with MF35ST and M*142 as first consideration. </p><p>Gerald</p><p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadge Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Bill, You might like to be aware that the ML is said to have had a major shutter revision to help relibility and that this is detectable by serial number range. I forget where exactly, I discovered this a while ago on the 'Net and what the serial numbers were and don't have time to look it up now but maybe I will remember later or some kind person will post a link. I seem to recall that the revised ML model coincided with the release of another Minox which also had the revised shutter (MDC?). The ML's program exposure and exposure lock features gives good handling for snapshots with the option of AV exposure when needed for DOF control. Exposure adjustment is easy using the manual film speed setting or the built in little button for backlight adjustment and there is a self timer too. There are a couple of flash options in ML specific models or many other brands via the hot shoe if you aren't fussed how it looks on the camera body. All in all a nice little package that gives good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadge Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=008BK7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadge Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 The site in question re the serial numbers was in fact subminiture site referenced earlier in the thread. See info under ML model. Here is an example pic that I shot with an ML:- http://www.photo.net/photo/3147121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_mitchell4 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 The 35ML is a great camera and uses an easily available battery, unlike some other models. With a fast film it makes a very good "always in your pocket" camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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