nathaniel_pearson Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hey all, KEH has an 'inoperative' 45mm f/2 G-Planar T*, listed in otherwise 'excellent' condition, for $52.20 in their current As-Is section. I don't have the cash or the need to try it, but it seems like a potentially perfect candidate for the Miyazaki conversion process (listed at 50400 Yen on the Hayata site). Perhaps this could be a good, reasonable route to a great M-mount standard lens for someone out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I'm missing something. You suggest paying $52.20 for a 45mm f/2.0 G Planar in in as-is condition to spend $460 to convert the lens to an M mount? Why not buy a 40/1.4 Classic Nokton in a Leica M mount for $350 and get a new, faster lens? I've owned the 45mm f/2.0 G lens and it was swell, but I wouldn't pay $460 to convert one to another mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathaniel_pearson Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 Eric, I love my 50/1.5 CV Nokton, and I wouldn't necessarily pay that much for an M- G-Planar either -- but given the going rate for this particular conversion, if one were looking for a lens to do it on, a $52.20 electronically dead, optically excellent one would be a much more reasonable choice than most others. Just passing it along for those who would be interested in such an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 it would make a good investment. these conversions always sell for big $$$ on ebay. some people in leicaworld reealy love the unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie chishty Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I can get a used 50mm Summicron for $484! http://www.keh.com/shop/SHOWPRODUCT.CFM?CRID=11843759&SKID=LM0601000017606&SID=newused&BID=LM&CID=06&SOID=N&curpic=0&dpsp=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 For half the total cost you could obtain a Summicron C or one of its clones and it is likely that only nit-pickers could tell the difference in the images produced. The quasi-Zeiss lens, as excellent as it may be, converted to M would have only 'exotic' appeal to a 'working' photog. Having dabbled in fitting odd lenses to Leicas myself, it is an attractive hobby, but yields very little improvement (if any) for the necessary effort or expense. Why not wait for the new Zeiss M lenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul t Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 all hail to Nathaniel and his Heads Ups. He helped me find a Summicron 35/2 for far less than they go for on ePay. Cheers, Nat - photos are looking great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathaniel_pearson Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 Glad to hear it, Paul! ;-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 There's a guy in Japan who runs a company called MS-Optical, who will custom adapt lenses into M mount. I think he charges about $500. Still cheaper than a new Zeiss Planar 50. I'd be more interested in having him adapt a 24mm f/1.9 from the Fuji Natura though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_wilder1 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 When I personally tested the 45/2 G-Planar years ago, it's resolution figures blew away any lens in that focal range past or present. My comparisons include all Summicrons, the Asph. Summilux and surprisingly the ZM Planar. If you can adapt it to the M mount and get CRITICAL focus accuracy, it's probably worth $500-600 to do so. Another benefit is the 45mm (actually more like 47mm) focal lenght is a better match for the 50nn M frame lines anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 "I'd be more interested in having him adapt a 24mm f/1.9 from the Fuji Natura though." Into what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wang3 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I would not convert. 45 2 has a stunningly good resolution from f2.8 and up, f2 is difficult to test due to the inaccurate focusing of the G2 at f2 but from the MTF figures it is not as good as ZM 50 2 and Summicron 50 2. Bokehwise, ZM50 2 is nicest, followed by Sum 50 2. The worst bokeh is 45 2. This 45 2 is also quite astigmatic. ZM50 2 is so much better, why bother the conversion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__jon__ Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 >Hairy Geron , aug 23, 2005; 01:55 p.m. >Why not wait for the new Zeiss M lenses? Why not actually read the post? He was just passing it on... hello? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathaniel_pearson Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 Andrew, I second the idea of a 24mm f/~2.0 in M. Per prior discussion of the new ZI lens line, I think a 25/2 would, along with their heralded flagship 15/2.8, been a 'killer app' lens. That said, I haven't seen any scans from the Natura-S that actually impress me -- I hope that's just for lack of a larger sample of scans, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 M mount or screw mount, I don't care which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I don't have a scanner, but I recently shot a roll of Velvia in the Natura, and it came out just beautifully. I was up in the mountains in the daytime, so I would imagine that it was stopped down quite a bit. In darker situations I have only shot Natura 1600 color print film, which is pretty ugly compared slow film, but certainly serviceable. I have some camera porn from Japan that includes a Leica book with tests of a number of lenses MS Optical has adapted from Japanese P&S cameras into M mount, including Nikon and Super EBC Fujinon 28mm f/3.5 lenses, and a Canon 40mm f/1.9. There's a photograph of custom adapted lenses including the Contax G series Biogon 21 and Planar 35, other Zeiss Planar 45 and 50mm lenses, and Tessar 35mm f/3.5 lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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