poll

[leslie_cheung]

Silverbased bw film shooters here, do you:

 

A. print only wet print

 

B. scan negative, outsource print

 

C. scan negative and print at home via inkjet

 

What do you make of the kodak annoucement today regarding leica and

silverbased bw photography in general?

[john_spiers]

What announcement? A link?

[leslie_cheung]

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050615/kodak_paper.html?.v=4

[derek_stanton2]

Mostly "C," but i was hoping to do more of option "B."

 

If that announcement is real, it's very bad news, indeed. The bottom card in the 'house.'

[huw_finney]

A

 

I use Ilford paper.

[michael s.]

Leslie's <a href=http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050615/kodak_paper.html?.v=4>link</a>, an article noting that Kodak has announced that it will discontinue manufacture of b & w paper this year.

[woody3]

I scan my B+W negs then print the ones I like in a traditional darkroom. So, I guess my answer is the missing "D."

[woody3]

Actually, as far at 'printing' goes, I guess I qualify as an "A."

[leslie_cheung]

Sadly, I think other companys will follow and tri-x will go soon too. No one else

think this?? Ilford and others will probably benefit though only in the short run

imho.

[jtk]

Scan my own and print my own inkjet.

Bought a Canon P this morning.

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"Eastman Kodak Co. said Wednesday it will discontinue production of black-and-white photographic paper by the end of the year as it continues its transition to digital photography."

 

"Kodak spokesman David Lanzillo said the paper, used in traditional darkrooms, is produced in Brazil. The company will continue to make black-and-white film and chemicals for processing."

 

(GM casts engine blocks in Brazil)

 

"Demand for black-and-white paper is declining 25 percent annually as the imaging industry transitions from film to digital, Lanzillo said."

 

"...and higher-than-expected costs to cover steep job cuts."

 

(much like GM, which made absurdly obese cars until it was bought by Hyundai on 06/15/06)

[Eddie1664878514]

A - for the time being....

 

Response to Kodak's announcement - a little bit sooner than expected.

[jeremy_tok]

<i>What do you make of the kodak annoucement today regarding leica...</i>

<p>

WTF did Kodak say about "leica"?

[Brad_]

Not unexpected - smart move for Kodak.

[leslie_cheung]

Nothing. I meant its effect regarding leica M, traditionally a bw film cam.

[erik_gould1]

Mostly A, for b/w. B and C for color. Kodak going out of this market is the end of an era,

but I expect to have some paper to print on for as long as I will need it. I use Ilford mainly

now. I wonder about Azo... that would be a loss.

[colin jackson]

Exclusively A.

[gerald_widen]

"A" I only print wet. But I scan my 35mm negatives to see what I have and to visualize as to any cropping and dodging and burning I might have to do in the darkroom. Saves me a lot time.

[al_kaplan1]

I suspect that in a few years we'll be buying supplies at the art supply store. There should be enough of a market to keep a few smaller manufacturers in business for quite awhile. Offset lithography has been around quite awhile but oil paints and canvas can still be found without great effort. Galleries sell the paintings. K-Mart sells the reproductions.

[mattalofs]

C.

 

I mentioned this on the Film forum, but I'll say it here too; I think Kodak getting out of this market has a lot to do with improvements in B&W inkjet printing. I can't make an inkjet print that rivals a wet print by a master printer, but I can make an inkjet print better than I can a wet one.

 

I also suspect that many folks that wet print are using other papers. Of the three places in town that sell b&w paper, none sells kodak papers even though they all sell kodak chems.

 

The market for b&w is changing. I suspect that the range of productts will get smaller and more expensive, but they might get better since they will probably be selling to a more demanding consumer; the last bulk roll of TriX I bought had a couple of scratches running down almost the whole length of it.

[skeeter]

A and only a.

[colin_elliott]

"A" only.

As for the announcement by the Great Yellow Father....typical Kodak!

[saotome_genma]

<P>A, B & C.

[john_shriver]

B & C. But I don't have that great a solution for C, just standard Epson (dye) ink-jet on matte paper. But the minimum shipping charge at www.mpix.com makes B a bit of a bitch. Plus www.mpix.com doesn't offer glossy paper (grr).

 

Of course, www.mpix.com will have to switch to Ilford paper if they are to continue offering true silver B&W printing. Sigh.

[paulr]

C

Print on a new Epson R2400.

 

Wait and see attitude on B&W films and chemicals from Kodak.

[Jochen_S]

Now A, but dreaming of B