ulrich_brandl Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Sensor cleaning with brushes or soft air (bulbs) is not always as effective as expected, they move the dust instead of re-moving it. If you are lucky, electrostatic charge binds the dust to the brush, but that varies with many conditions. Dedicated vaccuum brushes produce only a weak vaccum, not always sufficient. Bob Atkins has described a useful two step procedure on his website, but it often ends up in a relatively cumbersome liquid cleaning. I have found, that the strong airflow of a household vaccum cleaner is very helpful. You put the vaccuum close to the lens mount (but stay outside !) and clean the sensor with a very soft, dry and grease-free brush. This mobilizes the dust parcticles and they will be captured by the strong airflow. If your brush loses a hair, it will be captured too. You don't distribute the dust in the camera, you really remove it. Only greasy or adhesive dust will remain for liquid cleaning. Is this method already published elsewhere ? If not, is there is enough interest that justifies the effort to post a detailed article on the web ? Ulrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Sounds like a reasonable technique as long as you are careful. I'm sure that TOO much suction could cause damage and if you applied suction with the shutter closed you could probably suck the blades out of their tracks. Of course if you are sucking air OUT of the camera, there must to an equal volume of air moving INTO the camera somewhere, so this would be best done in as dust free an environment as possible. Many houshold vacuum cleaners discharge a significant amount of fine dust particles into the air unless they use a HEPA filter system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulrich_brandl Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 Hi Bob, you are absolutely right, one should definitely stay outside of the lens mount. The other argument - it is true that you suck in the same amount of air as you suck out - dosn't seem to have too much practical impact. I think that the turbulences inside the camera will not allow most particles to settle. And at a time you need cleaning th density of dust inside is probably higher than outside. Clearly, one should avoiid this procedure in dusty environments and use a vaccuum cleaner with advanced filter techniques. Ulrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandru_petrescu Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I did that too (household vacuum cleaner on the 5D). Very effective. I wanted then to get more sophisticated and used a miniature vacuum cleaner, specially designed for sensor, no motor but canned air. I got so close to the sensor that I touched it and left a trace. I wish now I always used only the household vacumm cleaner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandru_petrescu Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Also, the warning about bending the shutter blades (trying to clean the mirror) with too much suction is very valid... don't get too close to the lens mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars c Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I"ve been doing that technique for quiet some time now, and it works well for me. But in addition to that technique, I also clean the mirror by firing 5-10 shots in burst mode, in front of the vacuum cleaner, To remove the dust in the mirror that would later stick to the sensor, if you're not lucky enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phyrpowr Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Interesting technique I read about: put gaffer, or some non residue leaving tape, over the mount hole, leaving just enough room for a bulb blower nozzle blow dust off, much if not most will stick to the tape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chr15w Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 i cant beleive that with all the hi tech in the photography world we are talking about sensor cleaning with vacum cleaners and sticky tape? Cant think of anything better though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecyr Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 "Is this method already published elsewhere ? If not, is there is enough interest that justifies the effort to post a detailed article on the web?" Well, I'd be interested. Not saying I'm ready to try this just yet, but the more info there is the better we can judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_1172872 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I spent about $ 40 for the largest foot-operated bellows from Fargo Enterprises. Works fine for me and I won't have to worry about the strength of a vacuum cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwolfrom Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 What about high airflow...the other way...ie, blowing from a pressurized air tank? Anyone ever had a problem blowing air at a sensor at 30 psi, 60 psi, 100 psi? I've heard not to use pressurized air cans as they throw a chemical spray...but how about electric air tanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffm Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 "... relatively cumbersome liquid cleaning." I'm probably a bit ham-fisted, but I've found brush cleaning to be more cumbersome than liquid cleaning, mainly for the reason that Ulrich gives in his OP - the brush just moves the dust around, and I need several attempts to get rid of it, before finally giving up and giving a single wet clean. Ulrich, I'd like to see your method in detail - anything to make cleaning easier. One thing I'd like to know - how do you hold camera, brush, and vacuum nozzle at the same time!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philippe_c. Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I use a transparent plastic ketchup type bottle with the pointy nose to blow dust of the sensor and out of the chamber. Cost me 50 cents (instead of the ridiculous prices they charge for the rubber bulbs in photo stores) and if there is grit and spots on the sensor, then you resort to wet cleaning. My technique has the advantage of no static, no excessive psi, great control and it's dirt (ha!) cheap. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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