scott_hotaling Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I'd like to hear some tips on how to get close to Heron (Great Bluespecifically, not that it matters), I've been out several times lately and justcan't seem to get quite close enough to fill the frame. So, whats the best technique? Or just some tips you folks use to get some of thebeautiful images I routinely see on this site. I know I'm at a predetermined disadvantage, I only have a 300mm lens and its notfast enough for any extenders to be feasible. But I'm only a student and can'tafford the good stuff so I want to make the best of what I have. Thanks for any tips/information... - Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_1172872 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Location, location, location. For example, along the gulf coast from Texas to Florida, herons and egrets become very acclimated to humans - especially if a fisherman is in the habit of tossing them something edible now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_hotaling Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Wow. That would be the place to go unfortunately I'm in school in NC so its not an immediate but thanks for the tip, if I'm ever that way I'm definitely going to check it out.<p>- Scott<p><a href="http://www.scotthotalingphoto.com/">http://www.scotthotalingphoto.com/</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemked Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Scott, If there are abundant birds in the area you can always use a blind. You don't have to have one/make one that is overly fancy. Frankly my best Heron shots have either been in Florida (and I too used to live in NC) or at odd times when a given heron just seemed to not care how close I got. You might find you have better luck on the coast in NC; I got to within 20 feet of a Little blue out there. In Indiana I once was walking with my daughter and came aross a Green Heron that let me get within 5 feet of the bird and I got some great images. Dumb luck pays off sometimes, best to be prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatherforcier Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 As has been said, it's likely some of the heron shots you're seeing that you like were taken in areas where the birds are acclimated to human presence. This doesn't mean you can't get your photos locally, though. If you watch for the bird's behavior and know where likes to spend its time, get there early and try to stay obscured from view. A blind would be helpful - a throw blind like Kwik Camo is very portable. If you don't have one, try to stay in vegetation and stay as quiet and still as possible. As the heron wades around, it may end up close enough for you to get some good shots. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg s Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Locally here in Oregon we have a NWR that allows cars to drive through. It is quite easy to photograph herons from inside the vehicle using the edge of the window for support. Again, the birds are used to the presence of people in the cars and stay put. This was taken from inside the vehicle at Ridgefield NWR. http://www.photo.net/photo/1942197 Cheers and good luck, -Greg- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two23 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 These birds are somewhat predictible and territorial. They generally seem to have a favorite spot. Go to Walmart and buy some grass pattern duckhunting camo--comes in 6x8 ft. sections I think. The synthetic fiber kind is best--the burlap gets moldy when wet. Make a simple "V" shaped blind in grassy cover near where the bird hangs out. You can even put a plastic tarp down, lie down on it, and cover yourself with the camo. If you go out in the morning dark it will increase your chances. Kent in SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Where are you located? I routinely get photos of GBHs in some of the nearby wetlands west of Chicago. The birds are skittish, but can be approached if you are careful. It took a couple years before I was able to get good photos of them. A 300mm is a bit short for full-frame photos unless you are in a blind. As they usually nest about 70-80 feet off the ground, you would probably need at least a 500mm for those type of shots. There are some bargains in used equipment that might serve your purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Sorry, I missed seeing that you are in NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger mitchell Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Scott, I'm no expert, and there are a number of outstanding bird photographers on this forum, so I can only pass along what I've learned. We have many, many GBH here in NW Wash. State but many of them are in farm fields, along the ditches, in the open. Watch how herons stalk their prey - they move very, very slowly. You do the same with no sudden movements. Don't suddenly move your camera/long lens to your eye and they will tolerate you getting fairly close (20 feet). The 300mm will be frustrating but you can get good shots and a tripod will help a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbb Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Scott, wear dark clothes, avoid places with people around (it was even published that many species/individuals are much easier to approach close in secluded places than those who are used to many people around, I have the same experience), go shoot by yourself only (nobody like to be cornered especially from a few different angles), move slowly and keep getting closer only when bird is busy, never when alerted. Keep shooting when approaching. All below are full frames (no cropping) <p style="text-align:center"><img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/4396710-lg.jpg" /></p> <p style="text-align:center"><img src="www.pbase.com/image/66104295/original.jpg" /></p> Here I had to take 1.4X TC off and back off a few feet to have this frame.: <p style="text-align:center"><img src="www.pbase.com/image/66104298/original.jpg" /></p> Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbb Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Links seems to have problems http://www.pbase.com/mbb/image/66104295 Here I had to take 1.4X TC off and back off a few feet to have this frame.: http://www.pbase.com/mbb/image/66104298 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 http://www.wagnerphotographic.com/galleries/Birds/pages/1Great_Blue_8_12.htm http://www.wagnerphotographic.com/galleries/Birds/pages/1Great_Blue_7181%20copy.htm http://www.wagnerphotographic.com/galleries/Birds/pages/2Great_Blue_5896.htm http://www.wagnerphotographic.com/galleries/Birds/pages/4Great_Blue_5869.htm Go where both the people and birds go and you'll get the most tolerant birds. Some good places in our neck of the woods. Also, if you want to shoot for a day sometime, rent a lens from Southeastern Camera and get the shots you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmeade Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 On the Thames, in the UK, you just never get close to them. The nearest I've got is about 150-200 yds. It's a real pain.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry h. Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Mark Bartosik--What is the GBH in your pbase shots eating? Is that an eel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 It appears to be a Siren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauh44 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I don't mean to hijack the thread but I have a question I'd like to crowbar in that's sort of related. I'm tentatively planning a trip to central Florida soon and would like to bring along my Canon 500mm f/4L IS "bazooka" lens. My concern is the flight (from Va). I certainly don't want to check that thing and risk it ending up in Katmandu or someone else's lens collection. How do you bird guys (and girls!) deal with flying with that "heavy artillery"? I still have Canon's rather bulky case - which does seem to offer great protection - but bringing *that* on the plane along with my other gear seems rather problematic. (I really don't want to check anything - but that doesn't seem realistic) Any tips and/or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger G Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Hi and this is mostly in response to Beau Hooker's question. You should be able to carry the 500mm onto the airplane, I have done so many times usually in the Lowepro PhotoTrekker. I would not want to check it, as a last resort I would UPS it to my hotel. I live in Central Florida and there are many good locations for bird photography, and imaging wading birds especially, almost any fishing pier or beaches such as Ponce Inlet, Canaveral National Seashore, Merritt Island NWR, as well as Orlando locations like Mead Gardens should work. Good luck and have fun. Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diy photography Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 To beat a dead horse to death. Do some research on floating blinds. You can get incredibly close to almost all types of water fowl. GBH included God's light to all Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauh44 Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Thanks Roger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_g.1 Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Scott , yes Herons can be hard to approach , as most are around where I live ,Northern Ontario , The easiest way for me if possible is shooting from a car , and a tip with wild animals in general is , as long as the car is moving they stay put , but if it stops and they are watching then they get nerveous. So moving slowly is best Ive found , but someone else driving makes it alot easier . Another tip is hide your camera , it seems to be the thing that mostly scares them , especailly if its a big white lens , I just put a dark sweater over it and it does make a difference. Some times if a bird flys away on you , it only goes a short distance , the last one I shot I followed along the coast of Lake superior , and by foot , I would appoach it ,(not directly ,but on an angle) it would fly , I kept following it , and eventually I was able to get quite close , after maybe 5 approaches , some times they just fly far , SOL! Green Herons often if approached slowly , no sudden moves , they will get used to you being around , and it can be a field day . I shot some last year over a period of a few weeks , they got so acustom to me at one point I thought one was going to jump on my knee. They would approach me to within 1 foot . Truly wild birds , when fishing they get so preocupied . I managed hundreds of close ups . Have not seen one this year. SOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kin_lau Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 For Beau... try packing a starter's pistol in your lens case and checking it http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/09/expensive_camer.html . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_chappell Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 <I> I'm tentatively planning a trip to central Florida soon and would like to bring along my Canon 500mm f/4L IS "bazooka" lens. My concern is the flight (from Va). I certainly don't want to check that thing and risk it ending up in Katmandu or someone else's lens collection. How do you bird guys (and girls!) deal with flying with that "heavy artillery"? </i><P> Exactly as Roger G says: get a PhotoTrekker or equivalent bag. I have flown many times with the 500 IS in a PhotoTrekker and never had any trouble: it even fits (barely) into the smallish overhead bins on current 'regional' aircraft like the Canadair Regional Jet series (came back yesterday from such a trip). On <B>really</b> small commuter planes you may have to hand the bag over at the foot of the stairs, but it won't go through the standard bag mangling process for regular checked bags.<P> A typical load in in my PhotoTrekker is the 500 IS with mounted 1DII body, 30D, 100-400, 17-40, 100 macro, 1.4X and 2X extenders, and 550 flash. The smaller lenses have their hoods packed in checked baggage to save space and the 100-400 also has its tripod ring removed. A bit of additional space is saved by substituting the well-known Corningware plastic cover for the bulky 'lens condom' lenscap Canon provides. Heavy, but it's got all the fragile/valuable photo stuff I usually carry on trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry h. Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Alex, thanks for the info. I've never seen a siren. I didn't know they got that big. My guide book say they reach almost a meter long. Amphiumas can get even bigger. I originally guessed a large salamander because of the head and gills, but like I said, I'd never seen a siren and didn't think they could be so long. Good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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