vuk_vuksanovic Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 hooked up with maya again and this time around i went back to an oldfavourite--neopan 400:<br><ahref="http://www.avzine.com/vuk/maya06/maya06neo_v.htm">http://www.avzine.com/vuk/maya06/maya06neo_v.htm</a><br><br>...also loaded up some agfa apx 100 for the first time:<br><ahref="http://www.avzine.com/vuk/maya06/maya06agf_v.htm">http://www.avzine.com/vuk/maya06/maya06agf_v.htm</a><br><br>i feel rather silly to have waited so long to try this excellentgerman film, given that the same company's "scala" is all i'd shoot ifit didn't cost an arm and a leg. if the ISO400 version is anythinglike this, i expect i'll soon be excommunicated from the church oftri-x. please share your experiences/results.<br><br><i>note: all pictures above were shot through leica (neopan = M6 withsummicron 40 & tele-elmarit 90; agfa = R4 with summicron 50); filmsdeveloped in ilford dd-x (7 min.)</i> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank granovski Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I bought a roll of T-Max, but I haven't tried it yet. The Tri-X works well indoors with a flash and outdoors pulled back 1 or 2 stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_zet Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 frank, as i have shoot thousands of rolls of tri-x i can assure you that it also works outdoors with no and indoors pushed 2 stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank granovski Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I don't like the look of it shoot outdoors at 400 asa, nor indoors without using a flash. Too grainy and not enough contrast, but then I haven't been processing the stuff for 30 years. I prefer the Delta 3200 pulled back 2 stops and the 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_amiet2 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Vuk, Both series are very nice, but I prefer the look of the APX100 series. Probably because it is 100 compared with 400. You may want to experiment with processing it in Kodak XTOL. Easily varied dilutions will give control over tonality and contrast, when needed. Another great film family to try is Ilford Delta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian hilmersen www. Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I am not able to see your photos.... Did you process the agfa in rodinal? I have one exposed agfa film at home, waiting to be developed....but I have pretty much standardized on delta 100 developed in ultafin plus (7 minutes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 "I am not able to see your photos.... " Me either. black boxes last week, denied links this week? i don't care what kind of film man you are, but your net skills suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r s Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I can see them just fine. <br> Like the second one a lot - a very 'symmetrical' portrait. <br> Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank granovski Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I can see them as well. Eric~, your 'puter must be older than mine. Time to upgrade. ;*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran_ois_courtois Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I cannot see them either, tried with Explorer and with Firefox on XP, had the same problem with Vuk's previous post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Sorry Frank. Mozilla often does this too dodgy sites. I'd run spyware removal software now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean_. Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Vuk, the links (or the site) don't work, all I get is a "connection refused" error, as with your last post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank granovski Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Spyware for DOS/WIN 16 bit? Naaaa. I was only yanking your chain about being able to see the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabophoto Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I tried with both Firefox and IE running under Windows XP Pro and always got the "connection refused" message.<br><br> Carsten<br><br> <a href="http://www.cabophoto.com/">www.cabophoto.com</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernhard Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I can't get to your pics as well. Photo.net isn't really that bad, that you couldn't upload the pics if you want some feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 The photos came through fine! Gorgeous girl! Did she do her own hair styling? It changed so much throughout the shoot. I guess I'll order some Neopan 400 and try it out. I like the look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry_kincaid1 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I really like the photos and the model. They go well together. So, I suppose the film did its job too. Anyone able to get ahold of Neopan 400CM, or whatever the C-41 version of it is called? The readers of one of the British photo magazines gave it a product of the year award. Any idea why Fuji won't market that film in the US? Anyone know how to order it from abroad? Is it worth it? It would solve my scanning problems with traditional B&W film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 "I prefer the Delta 3200 pulled back 2 stops and the 100." Frank, Delta 3200 pulled two stops (to 800) just brings it back to where it belongs. It's really more of an 800 to 1000 film. I've tried it at 3200 and got very thin negatives with unreadable shadows. I think I used TMax developer. SO I agree, this is no 3200-pushable film. I figure it's good for about 1250, or maybe 1600. I like to shoot TMZ instead for such purposes. At 1600 in TMax, everything's there. Tri-X outdoors: I get a nice, snappy looking picture when I shoot it on a dull, overcast day. Full range of tones. This is in XTOL. I've run out of XTOL now, and I doubt I will buy any more, since it only comes in a 5 liter package anymore. I suspect I can get great results with Tri-X in Microdol-X 1:3, since I get excellent dull-day shots with HP-5 in that developer. If it doesn't work, I'll just use HP-5 from now on. On a sunny day I'd rather use FP-4 or Delta 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Vuk. Those look good. The second one is interesting in how it breaks the rule of thids. Everything in the shot seems to be parted with her hair. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_lee2 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 No comments on the film, but #4 in both sets is a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuk_vuksanovic Posted May 3, 2005 Author Share Posted May 3, 2005 gentlemen. <br><br> sorry again about the server problems (it is not, as teenager eric suggested, anything to do with my HTML/web skills). i have just uploaded duplicates to a different location: <br><br> neopan 400:<br> <a href="http://www3.sympatico.ca/qstatistic/maya06/maya06neo_v.htm">http://www3.sympatico.ca/qstatistic/maya06/maya06neo_v.htm</a> <br><br> agfa apx 100:<br> <a href="http://www3.sympatico.ca/qstatistic/maya06/maya06agf_v.htm">http://www3.sympatico.ca/qstatistic/maya06/maya06agf_v.htm</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuk_vuksanovic Posted May 3, 2005 Author Share Posted May 3, 2005 <i>"Did she do her own hair styling? It changed so much throughout the shoot."</i><b>--Al Kaplan</b><br><br>al.<br><br>if you can believe it, i did the "styling"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuk_vuksanovic Posted May 3, 2005 Author Share Posted May 3, 2005 ...also curious what you guys make of my "editting"--these are the <i>rejected</i> photos:<br><br><a href="http://www3.sympatico.ca/qstatistic/maya06/maya06rej.htm">http://www3.sympatico.ca/qstatistic/maya06/maya06rej.htm</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Vuc, that last Neopan 100 shot looks waaaay oversharpened....so I doubt we're seeing Neopanin skintones as much as Photoshop. I like your black frames. You didn't ask ...BUT I think her face shape, skin, eyes are so beautiful that the wild hair, the clothing and especially the body shots, actively take away. Personal taste, but to me she'd be more beautiful with very simple hair styling...I'd want to crop much tighter, or do more with her shoulders...certainly less with her hair. I'll speculate that you had a good time fooling with her hair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Vuk, 3,5,7 and 9 are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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