jlobb Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I want to do some more street photography, but I'm always really hesitant to take pictures of just random people who may or may not know they're having their picture taken. Maybe I'm affraid that they'll think I'm stalking them or something and try to kick my ass. does anybody else struggle with this? or how did you get over it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmo Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 If you don't know them what difference does make it what they think. For that matter even if you do know them it makes no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_sullivan Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 to quote Dune..........."fear is the mind killer" seriously, though, there is only one way to overcome your fears..........just do it!........the adrenaline rush is half the fun of shooting street... is that enough cliched quotes for ya ;o) however, they are true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I can't add anything more to what Tom said... You just have to do it. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmo Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 <i>One will never reach distant shores,<br> if he chooses to remain upon the dock,<br> In fear his little ship of dreams<br> may be dashed against the rocks.<br></i> -- F. Bolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_west Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 john, what the others said. the nike slogan is for street photographers. if you tip-toe around and be sneaky, people will sense it, become more suspicious and then you're more likely to get your ass kicked. i know, sneaking around got my ass kicked twice. one thing that worked for me at the beginning was convining myself that i wasn't actually taking a picture of the subjects themselves. using a wide lens i told myself that i was taking the whole scene and the main subject was actually 'in the way'. that kinda polarised my attitude as to how i 'felt' about the subject. lock onto your subject, focus and frame but 'think' background.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hesitating is ok as long as it doesn't stop you. You also have to accept that you may come home sometime with fewer teeth than you left with. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_taylor Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Just use a 600 f/4. (Kidding.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 As a defensive club? www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
________1 Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 What's a good ass-kicking compared to all the wonderful photos you'll be taking? My advice? Roll with the punches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsorsa Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Here's a small suggestion, something quite easy and successful as an ice breaker, in my experience anyway. (Feel free to discard.) Look for couples holding hands, approach and say, "I'm shooting a series on people holding hands. Can I take your picture?" I have never had anyone deny this request. Apparently, peoples feel safe because they're a couple, honored, whatever. Shoot their hands and then work around and get whatever shots you might like. Allow these shoots to play out, offering prints, whatver. These experiments will give you some experience shooting "random people" (not quite sure what that means) and you can then decide if this kind of work fits with your photographic and world views, aspirations, etc. My own street work is still piss poor but sometimes I think I'm learning. If you develop other techniques, please share them with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_miller_gresham Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 imagine them in their underwear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipling Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Think of it as your job. Go about it with a business like attitude, be up front, if you think the situation could get you hurt, ask permission and shoot freestyle while you're asking, (hold the camera like your waiting but just click away) - nobody will suspect you if you aren't trying to hide something. <br> I'm not big or mean looking and I've never gotten my ass kicked (knock, knock), most people seem to think I'm doing something I'm supposed to be doing, like a plumber working on some pipes, that's what he does and nobody asks questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 If I want to engage with them then I use the 'Colombo' approach, slightly distracted, eccentric. Other times I just shoot and they don't even notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjag Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Andrew, LOL :) Johnatan, think of it as of safari, with people on the street being animals in their habitat. At a zoo you aware that lions and monkeys are wathching you, but it is unlikely to cause you much discomfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dai_hunter Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Eugene Zaikonnikov , apr 20, 2005; 03:34 a.m. Andrew, LOL :) said: "Johnatan, think of it as of safari, with people on the street being animals in their habitat. At a zoo you aware that lions and monkeys are wathching you, but it is unlikely to cause you much discomfort." Yes, but at the zoo there are bars... big... thick... heavy... bars between "them" and "you." ;-) LOL Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_taylor Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 "As a defensive club?" Would you attack an angry photographer swinging a 600 mm lens? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger krueger Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Gin. Look a little crazy. I've found far fewer people mess with me with a few days stubble and my Misfits skull shirt. I've also found that people react with a lot more hostility to my big black modern pro camera (1dsII) than to my even bigger--but old and funky looking--Mamiya Universal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parasko_p Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 always wear sneakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taffer Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 You may find some interestings thoughts on this here<br><br> <a href="http://www.pinkheadedbug.com/techniques/shynessone.html" target=_blank>Shyness</a> <br><br> And Jeff is right, in the end teeth will eventually end falling anyway... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justpete Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I've the same worries and concerns as the op and chose to start learning at 'safe' places such as a light rail station next to a hospital, a coffee shop and surrounding shopping area, and a large bookstore; planned are places like the farmer's market, some of the museums around town, one or two of the larger, safer public parks, not sure what else yet. Use a lens that lets you feel 'safe' (I'm getting away with using a 35-70mm zoom) and use the background to study and set up shots as was suggested already. But most important, if you look like you know what you're doing and that you belong in the situation people automatically assume you're doing your job. Carry a small notebook and use it to obviously annotate rolls, etc., mumble alot, etc. Showing fear only induces fear in others. Be aware of your surroundings, look friendly, professional as possible depending on need, etc., and you'll be surprised, as I certainly was, at how nonexistent people's concerns really are. And don't expect to make a lengthy photo essay out of one person, a few shots after working the nearby and surrounding background makes it seem as if pictures being taken of them are part of an overall photo study in progress and not something focusing on them alone. Taking close-in portraiture of homeless people wandering alleyways at night however strikes me as a good way to get struck oneself. No clue how anyone finds the guts to do things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdp Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 The more you do it the easier it becomes -- sometimes. It all depends on how I feel that day. If I sense hostility I back off. Some times I will just jump in and ask a few individuals if it is ok to photograph them. Once I establish that I "belong" there (there is where ever I am shooting) I take a few more liberties. Some folks will want to know why you want to photograph them and fear that their picture will end up on some web site. Others just say yes and they seem to understand what street photoraphy is all about without saying a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabri Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Good Stuff Oscar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Choose people who clearly like to be photographed ....<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Or find it all a bit of a hoot ...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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