abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I know this is just askin' for it....but which of these two appeals to you more?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 .<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Neither. They both sux! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 These don't look like they were made with a Leica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Digital sucks/rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Just thought I'd get those out of the way right from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 There's not enough contrast between the subject and background in B&W. I suppose if they were "dodged" something could be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jja Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 With a little cropping the first one will be quite acceptable. In the second photo, the focus is too soft and the male subject's eyes are looking down and away, very distracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_m__toronto_ Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 agree about the b+w version. they blend too much and the 'eyeing' photog in the back ruins it. colour is a little better, but it's not striking me as anything 'great'. as a picture for the couple to enjoy, i think they'll be very happy with the colour version. it's a shame about the people in the bg though. hmmm. maybe a crop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_m__toronto_ Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 maybe???... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Cooper11664875449 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Sincerest apologies Don...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Fair and honest criticisms all round. Here's a crop.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Matt, looks like we were both a work in PS at the same time! Personally, I don't like "custom crops" which always seem a little distracting unless it's something really drammatic like a panaramic. For my crop I used the standard 8 x 10. But it really is a little dull, isn't it. I mean if this were "Bob" and "Mary" instead of "Toshiyuki" and "Mariko" (invented names since I don't know these folks from Adam) I suppose I wouldn't even have bothered. That's the problem with "pretty Japan." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mskovacs Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 The male subject looks much better in the first photo and it doesn't have a Canon EOS "uglifying" the background :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Craig, I'll have to take a better look on my CRT monitor tomorrow. For that matter I don't really know what my own version looks like. LCD screens really stink for displaying photos. I would like the blacks to stay black. Normally after changing to greyscale I make a duplicate layer and change that to overlay and then adjust the slider to somewhere around 20%. But I'm not very skilled in such manipulation yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmo Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Uncropped, B&W, agree with the others it needs some work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takaaki Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 <i>That's the problem with "pretty Japan."</i><br><br>I am sorry, but can you please expand on this? I am not quite following... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I like the color version. It could have been interesting if you used a faster aperture but even as it is I do like the facial expressions of the guests. I think they fit into the picture just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I don't claim to have a calibrated monitor but on my monitor I would have adjusted the brightness like this:<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Takaaki, Japan must be one on the most heavily photographed countries in the world but it seems to me that the photos the world sees present a very narrow stereotype of the country. A land of kimono'ed women, temples, festivals and occasionally wacky city life. And it's not just "gaijin" photographers that get trapped in these cliches. A couple of days ago I went to a small photography exhibition put on by the local Rotary Club. All the photos were by Japanese photographers and all the photos fall neatly into one of two categories: event photography (you know where people bring aluminum ladders) and scenics (of nature and still temple scenes). And a couple of flower photos. Not one single candid photograph of a person or even a formal portrait. Looking at this exhibition you would have assumed there are no Japanese living in Japan. Or if there are, they only come out during festivals. BTW, your photos are very different and a welcome relief. But I get the feeling (if I'm correct and you do live in Japan) that you don't have as a goal "documenting" Japan at all. You are simpling making photographic art in the place you happen to live. And you'd be doing just about the same thing if you were in, say, San Franscisco. Am I mistaken? I've been trying to break away from "pretty Japan" pictures, trying to make photos that better reflect the small town life I see. And much of it is not pretty. The problem IS that it is precisely these photos of pretty Japan (i.e. stereotypical Japan) that seem to draw the most praise from the general non- photographer population. Here's one recent attempt to look at what we're not suppose to look at. It's not a strong photo but at least it isn't a temple, woman in kimono, pilgrim, kogaru, or Japanese maple in fall.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 <center><img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/2940633-lg.jpg"></center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I like the color one better for the less distracting background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 ..,.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takaaki Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Donald, thank you very much for your time, and I truly appreciate your point of view. I am in New York, and that is where I started shooting. I haven't been back to Japan for a long time, and I am very eager to shoot there too. As for your comment about locations etc., I'm too greedy, so I'll eat anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee hamiel Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I like the color one best - added some directional light from top right & burned their midsections in a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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