wendyholden Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I have been reading the archives and I was excited to see the recent thread on prime lens (can't wait to try the body cap gluing trick). I have found that I too, switch from one prime to another during weddings and although it is a hassle, I like the pictures much better than when I use a zoom. Maybe I need a few more cameras to help me juggle... I am in need of a wide angle lens to use for formals and family group shots when space is tight. I currently have a 50 1.8 and an 85 1.8, along with a 28-200 zoom and a few other mid range zooms that I rarely use. I shoot with a D100. My question is, should I go for a 20mm or 24mm lens? I was leaning toward the 24 but am worried that the digital factor will make it not quite wide enough. Suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peufeu Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Tamron 17-35 2.8-4 Nice build, sharp, low flare, much lighter and cheaper than the Canon equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendonphoto Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I second Pierre's recommendation - although there's not technically a "Canon equivalent." There's the 17-40mm f/4.0L for a couple hundred bucks more, and then there's the 16-35mm f/2.8 which is a LOT more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_h Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Sigma 18-50/2.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 The D-100 is a Nikon. The Nikon AF 20/2.8 is a very good lens at a good price, and would be about a 35mm equivalent field of view on your camera I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 D100. That's Nikon right? Then why are people talking about Canon lenses. Just because it is digital doesn't mean it is Canon. Sorry, I know nothing at all about Nikon lenses as I have a Canon camera and don't like knowing what I can't have without losing a lot of money on the switch. I do have a 1.6 crop Canon camera and would say that 24mm isn't really that wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_dutchman1 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I have the 20, 24 and 28. I mostly use the 28, but it is very expensive. If that's an issue, the 24 would work out fine. I rarely use the 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I'd go with either the 14mm f/2.8D or 18mm f/2.8D AF-Nikkors if you want single foca length lenses. Me/ I'd take the 12-24mm f/4DX Nikkor. In the tests I've run with this lens on a D70, it out performed the 20mm f/2.8D Nikkor I also own, strictly just at resolution and contrast. i suspect the performance is very close to that of the 18mm and betterthan the 14mm. At some poin you have o weigh the benefit of optimal optical qualities againstthe veersatility and speed of using a high quality zoom. On a D100, the 24mm will capture the angle of view you would get with a 36mm on a 35mm film SLR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetlevel Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I have sigma's 20mm 1.8 on my d100. FWIW It's my alltime favorite prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedding-photography-denver Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I like the Sigma 20/1.8 too. As a wide prime its great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strathconaman Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 I have the 20mm 1.8 Sigma as well. Good build quality, sharp, but rather large. I suspect the hood is nearly useless. When you need a wide (about 32mm FOV) lens at 1.8, this is your only choice (in canon mount for 1.6 crop factor.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkpainter Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Wendy, I think the Nikkor 20-35 2.8 (non "D") is a good practical and not too expensive lens to use on a D100. I used to have a 20 2.8 and I find that the quality of the 20-35 Zoom holds up quite well to the 20 2.8 prime. jmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Oh, that's right the Nikon crop factor is 1.5X, so a 20mm is a 30mm field of view. Sorry. Interesting that the digital zoom Ellis mentions out performed the Nikon 18/2.8 which is one of their top dogs. If that is a consistently reliable result, then the zoom would really be worth looking at. I tested the 2 Canon digital zooms I got for my D20 ( EFS 10-22/3.5-4.5 & EFS 17-85/4-5.6 IS ) and found them lagging the L lenses in color rendition and over-all performance. I bought them anyway for a lighter weight, more versatile kit when traveling (adding a 50/1.4 for low light stuff because these lenses are sloooow apertures). f/4 is pretty dim in those little APS sized viewfinders IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_bradtke Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 I will put my vote in for the 20mm f2.8D Nikon or if you want to go wider I would say look at the Tamron 14mm I own the 20 and the Tamron 14 I like them very much on my D100 and on my D2H. I tested the Nikon 14mm on my D100 and it had some bad chromatic aberations that the Tamron did not show on my camera.So for me it was an easy choice. I use the 20mm a lot it works aout to act like a 30mm and has good color and is sharp enough for me and my clients. I have the 24mm also and I use it more on my F3 then on my D100. Its only 36mm on the D100 not all that wide. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 "I am in need of a wide angle lens to use for formals and family group shots when space is tight." Then you probably don't want a 20mm lens as objects/people near the edge of the frame will have a wide-angle look to them. A 24mm is probably your best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 She is dealing with a crop factor on her digital camera Kevin. Most of that distortion is chopped off. A 20 is like a 30mm field of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_bradtke Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Wendy This is a shot from my D100 with the 20mm. I did crop it some to loose some dead space. Michael<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 On a D100 or another other Nikon DSLR, even a 20mm lens is not all that wide. If your budget is within $500 or so, that would be your best choice. For $1000 or so, the 12-24mm/f4 DX would give you a lot more flexability in tight quarters, but it is a relatively slow max f4 lens and it is not inexpensive. My favorite event lens for Nikon digital is now the 17-55mm/f2.8 DX, but it is well over $1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apps Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Shun, do you know what the formula is to determine how a non-digital wide-angle lens will convert to a digital camera? I was disappointed that my wide angle lens that I used for a film camera was much less wide on the digital camera. Thanks for any information you can provide. I have searched this website for this information and just can't find it. Take care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_forbes Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Wendy - Just multiply the actual focal length of the lens by 1.5x for any Nikon D-SLR to get the equivalent focal length for a 35mm film camera. So, on any Nikon, a 20mm lens becomes a 30mm equivelnt field of view, and a 100mm lens gets the FOV of a 150mm on film. Canon cameras have three sensor sizes, so it's a bit more confusing for us (We have full frame 35mm, 1.3x crop, and 1.6x crop). If you are looking for something that is quite wide, the Sigma 12-24 4.5-5.6 should be avalible in a Nikon mount, although it is slow and from what I understand the quality is rather inconsistent. That would get you all the way out to an 18-36mm equivalent zoom, which will get you very wide, to slightly wide shots if need be. That Sigma covers a full 35mm too, so it can be used as an ultra-wide zoom on a film camera. It's probably not nearly as good as the Nikon, but it's a lot cheaper, too. Also, Tamron is coming out with an 11-17mm zoom lens for digital in the near future. Given the short zoom range, I would imagine the price will be pretty reasonable ($500?), if you don't need something now, you might want to wait until that comes out. If you like a 28mm focal length on film, the 20mm Sigma F1.8 would be close to that on your camera (30mm equivalent), and it's about as wide as you will be able to get a fast prime lens in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_hyde3 Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Wendy - With you looking for a lens ranging between 20mm to 24mm, Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG ASP HSM which would give you 18mm - 36mm digital equivelent and flexibilty of a zoom. I have just purchased lens myself and have been pleased with results. Here is a link with samples using the sigma 12-24 lens. http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/1224_4556_ex_dg_asp_hsm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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