roome jee Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 We at some degree do recognize what originality is, but do we understand what aesthetics is? I don?t want to start with my own comments as to keep the biasness apart. Am doing a research paper on this topic, your reviews will be of great help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_milner2 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 The dictionary definitions of "aesthetics" and related words are pretty clear. That would be a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie_cheung Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 We can try to articulate our senses but we cannot understand it fully since it's intrepetational at best. Perhaps certain things are meant to be felt and not understood like art, love, David Lynch films etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aasif_rashid Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 aesthetics is a born quality. feeling the collection of thoughts and expressing these thoughts into materialism. Some people are good in visualising things so that the expressions reflects the inner thought. as far as the artistic aesthethics is consern the aesthetics is to look things in a way where most of the people dont notice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john falkenstine Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 The answers above are valid but what KIND of aesthetics are you talking about. Those relating to imagery, such as posted here, the kind relating to architecture? to music? Give us some more feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewkane Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Leslie HA David Lynch films that's funny.... so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_. Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 there are far too many variables to come to a concrete conclusion to such a general question..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h._p. Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 In my opinion, 'aesthetics' is a weasel word for personal taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roome jee Posted July 10, 2004 Author Share Posted July 10, 2004 Thank you Richard Milner, I have gone through the dictionary. But what I am looking for was not explained. You are very right leslie cheung these things are to be felt, but I have embarked in a quest to express it in words. Yes AASIF RASHID you are correct but what is Artistic Aesthetics. I want to find out why people rate some pictures as high in Aesthetics. What are the main ingredients of a picture, which makes them Aesthetically good? Dear John Falkenstine I am interested in Photographic Aesthetics more importantly I want know why people rate some pictures as good in aesthetics in fact I want to find out the ingredients so people can cook better pictures. Yes Grant I am afraid there are many variables but, this is a thirst and I have to quench I hope this has given some directions to what is the question in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie_cheung Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 >>>I am interested in Photographic Aesthetics more importantly I want know why people rate some pictures as good in aesthetics in fact I want to find out the ingredients so people can cook better pictures. <<< Form, Content, Perspectives, color (or lack of), tonality, bokeh, light quality, vantage points, focus, framing among others are ingredients. Good ingredients may not alway produce a great photo however some lacking photo may appeal to some. It all depends on the audience. Really though fuck the audience, shoot what deems appealing to you as an individual unless acourse you are shooting and $elling for someone else;O) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondiani Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Aesthetics without content is nothing... If everybody like a photo it will be good for wallpaper or screen saver but will not qualify as an artistic work. Both are important. I've got 2, 3 pictures with strong content, some that tell a story and many aesthetic only pictures... Few care about content here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roome jee Posted July 10, 2004 Author Share Posted July 10, 2004 Yes leslie cheung and mondiani, i want to know those aspects of the trained eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbies Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Aesthetich is very subjective.You can to check in dictionary but always every people will be understood this a bit of differently.Simple ,if you like any photo you give high rate and ..... :-).I think that we should give rates so as tell you your inside voice.If you will apply to definition then result could be bad, bacause you will be very like any photo and definition rank will be bad.I am a amaterur photographer and truly i think as amateur too but on this site is more such men as I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbies Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 And i must write this ,aesth.. and orginl.. it to little in order to well estimate photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raywei Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Actually I think a deeper discussion of aesthetics should go beyond photography, unless your research article is defined only within the scope of photograhy. To me, an aestheically appealing art work presents life, which is truth, good and beauty. To me, death is not beautiful, even it has dignity that I recognize. You can tell that I belong to a classic school in this sense, but I don't belong to any religion, which devides mankind. When you see deep down in any culture, you see similar things in arts that present beauty in life. What it implies is that beauty must be universal, it is about life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskphotog Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 The perception of aesthetic quality is a result of the perception of purity of intent in the object/scene/landscape/athletic act/whatever you want to put here/. Any thing or any act that arrises from impeccable purity of intent will produce the perception of aesthetic value in anyone who is attuned to such things. Aesthetics is a result of the ultimate spiritual nature of man and the universe manifesting itself in that intent. You can see I tend to have a metaphysical bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roome jee Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 I have observed that top rated pictures in Aesthetics are mostly Landscape showing countryside. Do we have some link here between Aesthetics and Sceneries? Results taken from "Period=All" and "by:Aesthetics" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micheleberti Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 First of all to me aesthetics is strictly a subjective stuff: what is aesthetically good to me might be not so good to any others. I then think that aesthetics is a combination of primary sensations made of emotions, personal inclinations, and formal education. The last point, for example, might be important here on PN where professionals meet each others with amateurs: professionals might gave their respectable opinion based on a techs stuff mixed to emotional sensations while amateurs might prefer sensations over technicalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roome jee Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 Michele Berti, in my opinion subjective, also has a pattern. Like what most of the people like to appreciate. and emotions, personal inclinations, and formal education, must also have some thing common among individuals. Do we still from deep inside prefer to be as free as a bird? And have no boundaries. is that the reason we prefer sceneries. Do we feel confined, because of which we don?t rate pictures high, which give us feelings of being caged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kslonaker Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 To me, something I rate high in aesthetics makes me feel strongly one way or another. If it's not out of focus, the lighting suits the picture, and the composition overall is well done, for me, the subject matter then has to "reach" me. If it does, even if the image is disturbing or not "pretty", then it's aesthetically well done, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Roome, I'll contain my reply to your research paper question with my observations on this site. I think there are two parts to ones aesthetics sense: first as an observer, and another as an artist/creator. <br><br>The former might include a primitive response to a visual stimulus of felt significance such as nudes, unusual or familiar landscapes, or some cleverness to an image we interpret as aesthetics expressed through originality. The level of agreement (on what's beautiful) is likely influenced by ones exposure to prior art, in other words, you're likely less impressed if you've been desensitized through many prior experiences. <br><br>It's quite a different matter when one puts on ones artist/creator hat - everyone has a palette for fine cuisine, but not everyone is a fine chef. In this instance, I suspect ones aesthetics sense is an expression mostly from drawing on ones life experiences as observers or learners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelging Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 To me aesthetics is that part of anything we encounter in life ,a sunset, child's face ,a beautiful building , statue,photograph. The feelings that this experience provokes in me,is the aesthetic experience. I think as humans we are drawn to universal themes by genetics. It has been shown that children are drawn to the shape of the face as a very young age, so they can find their mother.As adults we are drawn to the same things ,but with a expanded consciousness, that is made up from experience. The photographs I am most drawn to are the ones that cause me to feel something.I think Ansel Adams landscapes are beautiful ,but although technically perfect his people photos leave me cold. I guess its like the judge said,I am not sure how to define it ,but I know it when I see it,(or feel it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted carter Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Synonyms always help me. For me, "aesthetics" is synonymous with "beauty," and "originality" with "creativity." In other words, for me originality deals with the artist and his/her craft, and aesthetics deals with the subject matter itself. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrankin Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Roome: It seems to me that aesthetics involves whatever stirs our brain's pleasure chemicals through any or all of our senses. I mean this seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxhaynes Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 To me, aesthetics are like the surface of the cultural waters, always changing to suit the volume and mixture of the culture that makes up the water but also that which rises to the top and is recognized by the majority. Landscapes do well on P.net because all cultures can recognize this common form. Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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