david_henderson Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Relatively new to b&w, I've settled on Tri X 400 for most of my medium format b&w work, after trying a range of alternatives. I very much like the look this gives me; and mostly appreciate the flexibility that the speed provides. However there are times, especially near water, when it's just too fast and I can't get the long exposures I occasionally want. So, is there a slow film that could give me a similar look to Tri-X? I should add that I have my films developed commercially in D76/ID11. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_wilson1 Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 How about a Neutral Density Filter or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Other than a neutral density filter, as suggested, you might try Ilford FP4+, Agfa APX 100 or Efke 100. These are all "older" style emulsions. While none of them duplicates the look of Tri-X they'll get you closer than Kodak's T-grain or Ilford's Delta films. However if you're wanting the water to look blurred, unless it's already moving pretty fast even a 100 speed film won't be slow enough. Again, you'll probably need neutral density filters for daylight shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted April 30, 2004 Author Share Posted April 30, 2004 I do know I'll need to combine methods of getting speed down, so the ND thought is certainly televent. But if I want to end up with exposures of maybe 4-8 seconds I'd rather not start from a nominally 400 ISO point. Neither do I want to commit to using my smallest apertures every time. So if I can get a similar look from a film 2/3 stops slower it would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titrisol Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Fortepan 100 and 200 Give those a shot, you can get them cheaper under the Arista-Edu name from freestylee. Also APX-100 in Rodinal would give you a similar look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Is this like what you've got in mind? <a href="http://www.photo.net/photo/1758983">water</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay ott Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 How about Plus-X? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_goldfarb Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 The last of the really slow traditional B&W films is probably Efke 25. You can find it at www.jandcphotography.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkpainter Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 I'm with Jay.... Give Plus-X a try and see what you think. jmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 Ilford FP4+ or Agfa APX 100 downrated to 50 ASA. I'd also strongly recommend you set up to do your own processing. You only need a changing bag and daylight tank, e.g. Paterson), thermometer etc. and you have full control over your negs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_bennett Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 APX 100 or FP4 in Rodinal 1:50. Efke 25 in Rodinal is very nice, but because of its different spectral response, has a very different look from Tri-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 Thanks for all your suggestions. I think I'll give FP4 a try first- not least since its easy to buy and my lab will be used to it. Haven't Agfa discontinued their 120 films anyway? If that doesn't give the effect I want then I'll try some of the others. Efke sounds fascinating and I've looked at their web-site- I do wonder whether its a good fit with commercial processing though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy_nolan Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 I'd think Plus-X might be good too, but you may want to keep an eye out for Fortepan 100 or 200. I have quite a love for it when I'm going for a more classic look, and my local store generally stocks it for under two bucks a roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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