summerleif Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 The RED Epic is a still digital photography camera. The RED Epic is a digital cinema camera. The RED Epic is modular. The RED Epic looks like a game changer and a Canon 5D Mark II killer in many respects. The RED Epic FF35 with 24x36mm sensor capture 24megapixels 6000 x 4000 pix at full 16bits. Other sensor sizes are available for the modular system. A large suite of lenses are being made available with the release. Everything will be different after this. Read all about it with amazing detailed specs and photos here: http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/13/reds-digital-still-and-motion-camera-system-now-official/ Gallery of photos and specification sheets. http://www.engadget.com/photos/reds-digital-still-and-motion-camera-system-now-official/ I am interested if adapters are available for my existing lenses. My studio work would welcome this tool if its noise, dynamic range, and ISO capabilities are sufficient.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltflanagan Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 The FF35 "brain only" module is $12K. Then you have to buy all the other components like the viewfinder. The 5DII is dirt cheap in comparison. Of course the RED is a top of the line movie camera with the kind of features that movie professionals depend on. The 5DII video feature while extremely impressive is not set up for the movie industry. The smaller sensor sizes are much more affordable ($2500) but then you should compare it to cheaper less than full frame cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon_peterson Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I seriously doubt it is a 5d2 killer. The price for the sensor component alone (apparently) was listed at $12,000. At ~$2,700 the 5d2 is in a completely different class. <p />See <a href="http://www.engadget.com/photos/reds-digital-still-and-motion-camera-system-now-official/1155677/">http://www.engadget.com/photos/reds-digital-still-and-motion-camera-system-now-official/1155677/</a>. <p />It looks more like Hasselblad should be much more concerned than Canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 the average still photogrpaher is notthe target market for tis. Who is? Advertising photographers who wan to shoot commercials and videos, cinematographers who want to own their cameras ( and rent them back to the productions they work on), motion picture production rental houses, directors, big corporate multi/media production companies, documentary film makers, the big networks; CNN, FOX, CBS, ABC, BBC, NBC, etc. This isn't a product that Canon (still camera division ) or Nikon are intitially worried about -- down the line might be a different story. The companies that need to be very concerned right now are Arriflex, Panavision, Sony, Phillips. The 617 version looks awesome.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I'd say the Red Epic FF35 much an EOS 5D MkII killer as a Ferrari F430 is a Mazda Miata killer. Maybe if it was about 1/10 of the cost it could compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon DAmato Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 <i>The companies that need to be very concerned right now are Arriflex, Panavision, Sony, Phillips.</i><br><br> From what I'm hearing on sets about the current Red video cameras, the companies that need to be concerned are the ones that use them to shoot their show. Some directors of photography like them because they can use film camera lenses. But for now, most DP's won't touch them. I've heard bad things time and time again from video engineers about the software that's used for the Red's raw conversion and archiving. They are also very susceptible to shutting down in hot environments. And fast and easy replacement cameras are not sitting on rental house shelves when there are problems. <br>When they work out the bugs, and more post production houses start being able to work with the files, things may change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrison_k. Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Red is working very closely with Adobe at the moment on DNG development. I anticipate the files importing and working effortlessly with CS5 and hence making the camera assessable to anyone that can afford Adobe's master collection. "..on the other hand maybe Canon, Nikon, Phase One, Leaf, Jenoptik, Dalsa, Kodak, and Hasselblad do need to worry" Seeing how you can mount Nikon and Canon and many others lenses, I think they should be. I remember the similar skepticism in the mid 90's with Kodak/Nikon's DSC...$30,000 for a 1.3 meg tethered camera body. At least it wont be 14 years before we're all using some sort of Red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdoyle Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I heard RED offers no support for their cameras. What good is that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrison_k. Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 First time I ever heard that. My impression is the opposite. Red has their own forum and one of the owners, Jim, heavily participates it in it. I find that rare today, talking to "the boss" and any/all issues I've noticed there are resolved quickly. http://www.reduser.net/forum/ They are known for providing top notch small business personal service. Their infrastructure may be smaller than what one would expect for such an expensive piece of gear, but they are a small start-up in their infancy all the while blazing a frontier trail in the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k._adam_berman Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Shouldn't RED be concentrating on killing of 35mm motion picture film, which they claimed they would do over a year ago, before shifting gears and going after DSLRs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grodis Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Pretty camera but it's cost would kill me. There are Digital backs for the Mamiya 645 that have "Come Down" to $6,999.. So, if anything the Mamiya Digital set up is by far more affordable and it can still do 120, 220, 135, and Polaroid film.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I guess it's just natural for things with red circles on them to be expensive ;-) One of Nature's warning signs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris_lamba1 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 RED is making a new announcement on the 2nd of December which s supposed to render the last one irrelevant in comparison. I think it may have something to do with price reductions as the stills modular system is perhaps a little over priced at the moment. Also, anyone who knows RED, knows that Jim Jannard truly cares about the photographic and video industry, he's clearly not in this for the money (having already made a few billion from Oakley. It remains to be seen if it will be a viable alternative to the high end Cannon/Nikkons but will certainly have Hasselblad and PhaseOne a bit worried. The RED one has virtually revolutionised the film industry in the year it's been out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan_self Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 it looks terrible. I'm sure it's a wonderful camera though. Reminds me of one of those crappy Hondas sup'd up. Looks like the band hinder painted their parts ewwwwww. My immature comment for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_manning1 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Very non-organic look, like somebody built it with a Lego set. While looks won't matter to the final image, it may affect ergonomics. All those square edges look uncomfortable to hold for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovcom_photo Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I just heard that a new start up is coming out with a competitor of the Red. You'll read it soon in the news...a new product from Purple... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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