western_isles Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>Some time ago I posted an item on Nikon UK not answering customer complaints and the response was, to say the least, suprising for a number of reasons.</p> <ol> <li>Some respondants thought that I expected a member of the senior management of Nikon to turn up on my doorstep and fix a computer. In fact the two PC’s I have, notebook and desktop, have been, and continue to hum along very nicely.</li> <li>Other respondants seem to think that it ok for a company to provide inferior products and services and that we should say nothing and get on with our lives minus our hard earned cash we have given to the said companies.</li> <li>A minority thought that I was right to complain and wished me luck.</li> </ol> <p>The outcome........<br> I have received a letter of apology from Nikon Europe and an email from Nikon UK basically reinterating the contents of the letter. I accept the apology from Nikon and will be writing to them to confirm this.<br> Presumably someone in Tokyo instructed someone in Europe to contact me and do something. This, I think I can say, restores the honour of Nikon Corporation as far as I am concerned.<br> I have also had the experience of a customer complaining and my policy has always been to get on with sorting the problem out if that was at all possible. Invariably it meant holding on to the customer even if it did take time and effort. I will continue to be a customer of Nikon as a result.<br> To those in group 1. and 2. I think that the response from Nikon speaks for itself.<br> To those in group 3. thank you for your support.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>For the record, the following thread from a month ago was "part 1" on this topic: <a href="00Yhmx">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Yhmx</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>Frank: Is it safe to say that none of that has actually involved the issues with your computer's configuration, and NX2's stability when running on that particular platform? Or did they actually help you out with your computer?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_brown4 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>Whenever I see software instability, my first question is: What operating system? If the answer is Windows (or any Microsoft product for that matter), we now have our prime suspect. There are untold billions spent finger pointing, reloading versions, hours for tech support, and blaming hardware, that flow from Redmond. What a waste. Sadly, we are stuck with it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsnow Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>As has been already asked:</p> <p>Has your original issue been resolved?<br> <br />RS</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony_bez Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <blockquote> <p>As has been already asked: Has your original issue been resolved?</p> </blockquote> <p>I doubt it has.... But Nikon have given Frank a hug so it all ended well.</p> <blockquote><br /></blockquote> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbergbarry Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>Good for you. I guess the next time my iPad freezes, I will demand a personally apology from Steve Jobs for publishing an "inferior" product. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emiliogtz Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>An apology is nice and all but I know my employers will probably fire me if instead of results I was giving them apologies. I'm not that lucky.</p> <p>Still, I hope your problem was fixed also.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighb Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <blockquote> <p>What operating system? If the answer is Windows (or any Microsoft product for that matter), we now have our prime suspect.</p> </blockquote> <p>Absolutely true.</p> <p>The world standard of instability.</p> <p>- Leigh</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_bradtke Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>And this thread has what to do with Mac or Windows?<br> I can tell you that I have had as much trouble with Macs as with Windows. And I myself have seen ZERO stability issues with NX2 on Windows</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pge Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>I bet this isn't the first time Frank didn't get the reaction he expected.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartMoxham Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>Nice one Frank, more people should really complain about products that don't work as they should.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlight_b Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>congratulations! the question however: was the problem resolved? or was the problem that lack of an apology - in which case, it has been resolved :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre_noble5 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>My Capture NX2 most update version <strong>freezes</strong> and also does <strong>not like the 500MB+ scans</strong>. It does have some gltches, but is awesome when it works.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsnow Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>Still no answer if Frank's original issue was resolved, Sooooo....</p> <p>I stand by my post in part one of this conversation that Nikon senior management should not be bothered by technical issues that are best handled by the tech support staff and NIK software support. After all, Capture NX2 is a produce of NIK Software, not Nikon, (even though it is a Nikon branded product).</p> <p>YAY! you got your apology from Nikon UK...more than you really deserve.</p> <p>RS</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot1 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 <p>If the software was truly 'bad', wouldn't every user be complaining? Windows is a difficult OS. Giving Nikon the benefit of the doubt, if in fact Windows is the problem, why should Nikon be responsible?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zack_zoll Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 <p>I've only had Windows OS-related glitches twice in the last few years. In both cases it was because I had purchased an inferior product attempting to save money (one was a USB direct box for recording audio, and other was a FireWire card), and they both stopped working properly (or at all, in the case of the card)once I downloaded the most recent service pack. I know that this is a hardware issue, as I had other products that also stopped working, but those products had updated drivers that I could install.</p> <p>Since the companies that made the cheaper products didn't bother to make new drivers, "Windows" made them stop working.</p> <p>I've used Windows machines for work for ten years (and for games and screwing around much longer), and those two issues are the only ones I've ever had. And this is on HP machines - nothing expensive like a Vaio either.</p> <p>Then again, I always use Norton (now AVG), and I don't use LimeWire, FrostWire, BitTorrent, or any of the other things kids are using to clog up their system these days.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zack_zoll Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 <blockquote> <p ><a name="00YtgM"></a><a href="../photodb/user?user_id=4540672">Andre Noble</a> <a href="../member-status-icons"></a>, Jun 15, 2011; 10:38 p.m.</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>My Capture NX2 most update version <strong>freezes</strong> and also does <strong>not like the 500MB+ scans</strong>. It does have some gltches, but is awesome when it works.</p> </blockquote> <p>Oh, but I've never tried to do that. CS4 on my Windows machine (two years old, but some minor upgrades) can run 1.5 gig files though. It just takes a couple minutes to save them, especially if they are 1.5 gigs due to layers, and not a single massive image.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 <blockquote> <p ><a name="00YtVj"></a><a href="../photodb/user?user_id=189330">Dan Brown</a> <a href="../member-status-icons"><img title="Subscriber" src="../v3graphics/member-status-icons/sub10plus.gif" alt="" /></a>, Jun 15, 2011; 01:26 p.m.</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>Whenever I see software instability, my first question is: What operating system? If the answer is Windows (or any Microsoft product for that matter), we now have our prime suspect. There are untold billions spent finger pointing, reloading versions, hours for tech support, and blaming hardware, that flow from Redmond. What a waste. Sadly, we are stuck with it.</p> </blockquote> <p>Odd....I don't have any problems with my 2 windows workstations. Never crashed. Never froze. Haven't for many years. Can't say the same about our Mac. So please, spare us the anti-Windows rants. They get tired.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Sorensen Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 <p>Not quite sure what your point is, Frank. If it makes you feel good that you "showed us" or got your apology from Nikon, then great. It's not the sort of good feeling that will last long. It'll have to be fed by something else. Other than that, I'm not sure anyone on the forum is really benefitted by this post.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_de_ley Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 <blockquote> <p>Nice one Frank, more people should really complain about products that don't work as they should.</p> </blockquote> <p>Amen to that. And more people should congratulate rather than disparage the customer who does actually complain and persist until he/she gets an appropriate response from the manufacturer of a product with flaky performance. It's the buyers who suck it up and "go on with their lives" that encourage producers & vendors to minimize their product testing, helpfulness of troubleshooting FAQs and responsiveness of customer service.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emiliogtz Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 <blockquote> <p>Amen to that. And more people should congratulate rather than disparage the customer who does actually complain and persist until he/she gets an appropriate response from the manufacturer of a product with flaky performance.</p> </blockquote> <p>But it's an apology the proper response? How's that going to help when the software misbehaves again?</p> <p>We know Frank got a response, but we're not sure yet his problem was solved.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zack_zoll Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 <p>At the very least Emilio, Nikon is admitting that the software may have a problem. This might not solve anything, but any AA member can tell you that it's the first step.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard__ Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 <p>Well, if Nikon Capture works in a similar fashion as Nikon Scan does for me, I understand exactly why Frank would doggedly pursue this issue.</p> <p>I'm glad he has the time to do so, while I just keep adjusting to the whims of Nikon's scanning software when I should actually have taken the approach that Frank did, back when it would have made more sense to complain. (I've been using it since 2002.) It could work much better than it does without much more effort if they would have maintained it properly.</p> <p>More people should complain about the failures, and applaud the successes of these corporate decisions. We might find that approach benefits all of us in the long run.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indraneel Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 <p>Good Job Frank! Maybe when the bugs are ironed out and Capture NX3 is released I'll be able to edit my 100MB scans without NX3 crashing.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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