jr stevens Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p>Hi all, i hope this is the right forum for my question..i recntly bought a Nikon FE and love it except for the extremely loud shutter! is this the case with all the classic SLR's and rangefinders or can someone recommend a slr with quiet shutter that i can use indoors for concerts, plays, etc that won't wake up the dead when i take a picture?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_watson Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p>The F6 probably takes the prize for low shutter/mirror db level. If you can work with it, any body(e.g., the F3)with true mirror lock-up will be pretty stealthy.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epp_b Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p>Mirror slap contributes quite a bit to the click sound, so mirror-up capability would be useful, but it's pretty difficult to compose that way ;)</p> <p>Some cameras have a "silent shooting" mode during Live View operation that functions digitally like a point-and-shoot camera... so no shutter click.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo5 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p>F100 is pretty quiet.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbraun Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p>Yashica 35</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshloeser Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p>Look no further than the N80. It has a very quiet and soft shutter, regardless of the shutter speed, to the point where I've wondered occasionally if it really is shooting as fast as it's supposed to (it is, of course). My D300 is very loud by comparison.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_mohundro1 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p>I believe the Yashica 35 is a rangefinder camera and almost any rangefinder camera is quieter than almost any SLR, film or digital. I've had a couple of Leica Ms and those and my three Retina RFs were alll quieter than my Nikon Ftn, my nikkormat and my current D80.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl_becker2 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p>Different rangefinder bodies have very quiet shutters with no mirror. I have used Leica M3, M6, Bronica rf645, older Fuji 645 and Mamiya 7 which are quiet. If you need very quiet check out some of these or other rangefinders.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw12dz Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p><a href="../classic-cameras-forum/00TIfU">http://www.photo.net/classic-cameras-forum/00TIfU</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.photo.net/classic-cameras-forum/00TIo5">http://www.photo.net/classic-cameras-forum/00TIo5</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p>Use a blimp. That's the only thing that works, and an absolute necessity when shooting a play or classical concert.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 <p>I would second Edward. Remember that motorized film camera makes noise when it advances the film, too.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>I haven't tried any of the current crop of dSLRs with live view so I can't comment on whether they're feasible for live theater. Unless everything is instantly responsive without any lag time I suspect it would be frustrating.</p> <p>I used a homemade blimp with my F3HP/MD-4 for photographing live theater performances. It was virtually inaudible, but the homebrewed blimp was very cumbersome and suitable only for tripod use. While the F3 is quiet with mirror lockup it's not a practical solution unless using a wide angle and guessing at the composition.</p> <p>Other than that, there really isn't any SLR quiet enough to use as-is for live theater or other performances where quiet is a must. Even a Leica rangefinder is too loud. When I wanted to photograph backstage at local theater events I switched to a compact rangefinder like the Olympus 35 RC or Canonet. The leaf shutters are very quiet, like clicking a ballpoint pen. In its day the Konica Hexar fixed lens RF was considered an ideal stealth camera. Haven't tried one myself.</p> <p>In digital many P&S cameras are virtually silent, some emitting little more than a barely audible click. I used an Olympus P&S digicam for awhile in 2002-2003 for performance photography, but that generation of digicams wasn't really suitable for low light or action photography. And those with longer zooms were much too slow. So I returned to fast b&w film until getting the D2H in 2005. And with the D2H I used the homemade blimp box again.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_larese1 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>The original Hexar AF rangefinder with its 35/2 has a real silent mode and is razor sharp. Brilliant camera.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvin_lim5 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>Either a point and shoot or rangefinder should do the trick. As long as there is no mirror slap, the camera should be really quiet.</p> <p>If you are sitting pretty far from the stage, I would think that a pns would make a better choice than the rangefinder.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_malkin Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>Nikon F80/N80.</p> <p>Its so quiet it sounds like its not even working right. Other than my Leica MP, I can think of no quieter 35mm.</p> <p>R</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshloeser Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>Part of what's noteworthy about the N80 is that its sound is very diffused, unlike any other camera I've heard. In all other cameras I've heard (minus a rangefinder), the mirror slap and shutter action happen in one sound and moment, unless it's a long exposure. The N80 has a diffused sound at any exposure. If there's just about any ambient noise at all, it will disappear into it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-man1 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>I have two nikon f3's and they are louder than my fe2 and fm3a, even with the mirror up. Hexar af in silent mode is quieter than all of the above, and also quieter than leica m3, mp, m6. My mamiya 7 is the most quiet. The nikonos v is similarly quiet, just FYI.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>I heard those reports about the N80 when it first came out and was interested in it as a theater camera. While very quiet, it wasn't quiet enough to use for live theater photography without a blimp.</p> <p>Leicas aren't quiet enough either. Even without the mirror slap the focal plane shutters are much louder than the leaf shutters on compact rangefinders, TLRs and some in-lens shutters.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshloeser Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>I can't imagine any camera but a rather specialized one for use in a theater. I thought that only rangefinders were allowed in many of them, at least during the productions. <br> But, the N80 helps during street photography, when the usual ambient noise drowns it out completely.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_laszlo3 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>Contax G2; equal or better than a Leica. Dirt cheap, used.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_brown4 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>Contax ARIA, lovely little SLR, quiet shutter, 3 fps, Zeiss glass. Quieter than any Nikon SLR by a good measure.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_b.1 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 There is one : the Canon (ups, I did'it again) 1N-RS.This camera has a fixed pellicle mirror so there is no viewfinder black-out at the moment of exposure. The fixed mirror allows high-speed continuous shooting at a top speed of 10 frames per second ( godd for ballet - ha ha) and a very quiet shutter (as far as I can remember) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dariusz_konkiewicz Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>FA<br> F80<br> D40/ D60</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_newell2 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>I doubt any non-enclosed SLR with a moving mirror is going to satisfy your requirement. A leaf shutter would be quietest, but few leaf shutter cameras have interchangeable lenses. Interchangeable lens rangefinder cameras such as Leicas, Voigtlander/Cosina and similar focal plane shutter cameras are standard fare for situations like those you mention. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_m Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 <p>A rangefinder with a cloth shutter is the quietest. Most notably...Leica rangefinders .<br> Some fixed lens rangefinders are also rather quiet, like the Olympus XA.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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