jon_kobeck1 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I have an Imac thats about 3 years old. When I bought it it was the latest and greatest and now I feel like its chopped liver! I do my Photoshop and Lightroom work on it. No photos on the computer, I have everything on dual external hard drives. But lately it is seeming like its running slow. It starts slow and just doesnt seem as zippy. What is the consensus on the lifespan of these? Can I get a couple more years out of it?should I do anything to it?I calibrate the monitor every week and it seems to pint very close to what I am seeing on screen. I was going to get a laptop for portability and wanted to keep using this as the workhorse Advice? OS X Version 10.5.8 Model Name: iMac Model Identifier: iMac7,1 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 4 MB Memory: 4 GB Bus Speed: 800 MHz Boot ROM Version: IM71.007A.B03 SMC Version (system): 1.21f4 Serial Number (system): W88 Hardware UUID: 00000000-0000-1000-8000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lornesunley Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 <p>You could upgrade to OS X version 10.6</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_kobeck1 Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share Posted December 28, 2010 Lorne I just checked for software updates and it says there are none. Is this something I need to buy? when I check my activity monitor I see alot of processes running. I remember a few years ago someone walked me though deleting a bunch of them and that helped speed things up. ButI havent a clue as to what to delete. I am tempted to pay Apple to clean up the machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lornesunley Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 <p>Yes, 10.6 is something you have to buy "Snow Leopard" I believe the code name is. If you have a slow boot up that can be fixed up by removing processes that start up at boot. You can find these in "startup items" in the "System Profiler" app. If you have doubts about what to take out.... best visit your apple dealer. They can also install the OS X upgrade.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_kobeck1 Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 I was just checking Amazon, The upgrade to Sno wLeopard is surprisingly cheap at $26.00. But If I buy a laptop I assume it will come with snow Leopard. Can I just install that disk onto my Imac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lornesunley Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>I don't think so ..... depends on how the upgrade license works.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_m Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>the laptop will only come w/ a model specific OS restore disk, not a universal installer.</p> <p>If you have 10.5.x, you'll need to pony up the $26 for 10.6</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susan_kelly1 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>My iMac is 3 years old too and its running fast. I agree upgrade to snow leopard. Then if you want to speed a few things up you can do a disk permissions clean up. Go to finder, applications, utilities, click disk utility app. When that opens, select your hard drive on the left (it can be the full hard drive name or Mac HD: either or. Then click "repair disk permissions". This usually makes my computer run faster. You don't have to worry about doing this... its not going to mess anything up. My processor is a tiny bit faster then yours but really you shouldn't have any problems with your machine. </p> <p>Susan</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_rochkind Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Computers do not slow with age, unless the source is recoverable disk or network errors. What happens is that over time as you install more software there are more and more background processes running. So: 1. Do a serious cleanup of startup and background apps, 2. De-fragment your drives, and 3. Spend $29 for Snow Leopard, as has been suggested above. --Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>I agree with what Marc says above and would also point out that a clean install of the OS can help a great deal (the OS enema). Back everything up first to an external drive you can boot off if need be. Do the Archive and Install option so you keep most of the necessary user Prefs (a full clean install is more work be if you can do it, even better). </p> Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_smith8 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>Keeping the photos on external drives only (USB?) will increase open and save times. You can keep the photos you're working on internally in the iMAC's drive, then move the saved photos back to your external drive when you're done.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrison_k. Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>You could have a bad stick of ram.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknowles Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>I would get an app which checks the hardware and especially the memory, check the setup (login items, etc.) in the preferences and run the disk utility. If you have checked the activity monitor program for apps using too much, then only look at those under your name and be careful as some are necessary with other apps. I wouldn't de-fragment the drive(s) since that's really unnecessary for Mac's , or do a clean install but simply upgrade to Snow Leopard along with the updates. Apple abandoned updates to 10.5.8 except for security measures earlier this year. It's an upgrades to 10.6.5.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrison_k. Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>Downloading Ubuntu Live CD, burning the iso and then running the memory check is the simplest. Instructions here.</p> <p>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_m Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>I dont think you even need to do that (d/l Ubuntu). There is a version of memtest86 for Mac's.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesBecker-Toronto Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>Andrew-a great suggestion! My 3 year old iMac is also acting a little wonky and nothing I have done has helped. I have done a previous reinstall when I ran Leopard and I'll do a reinstall of Snow Leopard over the coming holiday weekend. I should have thought of this myself before! Thanks and happy holidays to all. cb :-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zack_zoll Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>I can't speak for Mac, but when I finally got a laptop a few years ago I took all the games, internet explorer, etc. off my desktop. The only things on there were Photoshop, WordPad, and an audio recording/mixing program. Oh, and whatever photos or songs I was currently working on. Having it almost empty sped it right up, and I ended up keeping it much longer than I thought I would.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrison_k. Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <blockquote> <p>I dont think you even need to do that (d/l Ubuntu). There is a version of memtest86 for Mac's.</p> </blockquote> <p>It's not as thorough.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielleetaylor Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>* Running the Disk Utility commands Verify Disk and Verify Disk Permissions on your drives couldn't hurt, but I doubt there's anything wrong which would cause a noticeable speed loss.</p> <p>* Having too many startup/background apps running could slow things down. So could too many regular apps, especially if you're running up against your RAM limit. If you post the list of All Processes from Activity Monitor we can help you choose what can be deleted or quit until you actually need it. Also post the stats under System Memory in Activity Monitor.</p> <p>* Mac OS X manages drives such that they should never need to be de-fragmented unless you are just about out of free space, in which case you should delete unused files or upgrade the drive.</p> <p>* I have never, ever seen Mac OS X "decay" over time in terms of speed in the same manner as Windows, and I do not recommend a clean reinstall of the OS. Along those lines OS X does not slow down simply from having a lot of software installed. The number of programs running at any given time and the memory used are naturally issues, but not simple installation. (Windows slows as you install more software, even if that software is not running, because of stupid design decisions on Microsoft's part, such as the registry.)</p> <p>* Snow Leopard is a good upgrade, but I don't recall a huge speed boost from it.</p> <p>* Hardware issues such as bad RAM would cause the machine to crash, not simply slow down.</p> <p>I'll bet anything it's some combination of too many startup/background apps, too many regular apps open at once, and/or not enough RAM for what you want to do. Those things are interrelated. You might not need to remove or quit any apps if you upgrade the memory. Usually background apps or apps that are open but idle do not use enough CPU cycles to be worth worrying about. But if all the open software uses up your free memory then the OS will be forced to swap data to/from the disk, dramatically slowing things down. So an app sitting there just using RAM isn't a good thing unless you have plenty of it.</p> <p>I should also ask: is it possible that your perception of performance is being affected by some other factor? Are you editing larger images than you used to? Is your Internet connection or web browser slower? (FireFox is notorious for slowing down as you add extensions.) Do you have regular exposure to a newer Mac with a much faster processor? (That will make an older machine feel slow every time.)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>Your Mac is as powerful as some current 13" configurations. It should still have a couple years usefulness at least. I agree, an OS reinstall can "degunk" a computer - it's like that with OSX or Windows - and 10.6 is a bit quicker than 10.5. If you have low hard drive space available it could interfere with the fragmentation prevention setup, and there's some maintenance that happens at night so make sure to leave it on overnight every once in a while.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_kobeck1 Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 here are 2 snapshots of my processes I cant fit all on one shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_kobeck1 Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 screen shot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_kobeck1 Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 by the way, I dont see a defrag option on my system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spipaw Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 <p>As far as I know OS X doesn't have a defrag option because the system is supposed to drag on it's own, which I disagree with. I use tech tool pro and It has saved my bacon more than once. I also use Onyx which is free and it is excellent at cleaning house.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lookingbill Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 <p>What do you call slow? Gives times it takes to load and process a typical image or whatever you do that makes you notice slowness.</p> <p>I'm using the original 2004 Rev A G5 iMac (seen in my PN profile pic) and it's fast enough for processing 6MP Raws and editing web jpegs from forum threads for demonstration purposes. I'm not running it as some image processing factory. I have 2GB Ram and 150GB HD with about 100GB available. A year ago replaced the power supply for about $100. Running smooth.</p> <p>Bought it used in 2007 and have never reinstalled the OS that came with it from PowerMax, just upgraded to the latest for my model. I know it can't be as fast as yours, but I don't think yours should be retired just from a little slowness.</p> <p>Have you tried booting in Administrator mode or creating another User test account and see if the speed changes?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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