How often do you upgrade your Nikon equip?

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by raymondc, Dec 12, 2009.

  1. I am still in the dark ages. But fortunately I do landscapes and very seldom portraiture and events and sports.
    The original D3 for me was almost like just yesterday yet they have the D3s and the D700s isn't it and the new nano coated lenses. I am still using my new bought D70 and the recently bought used D2h. Thou I do find it more a bargain to get film bodies - they just seem much more worth it.
    How often do you guys update? I assume that you are spending more then in the hay days?
    Cheers
     
  2. I've still got all my early Nikon equipment--my Nikkormat FTn, Nikkormat EL and Nikon F.
    Upgrade? Was is das? No lo entiendo.
     
  3. I upgrade only when I've exhausted the possibilities of what I already have. Given my limited abilities, around once a decade seems enough. And when I do upgrade it's typically pre-owned equipment. I'm not exactly Nikon's dream consumer. Fortunately, many of our members more than make up for my lack of spending.
     
  4. I upgrade whenever my heart and wallet are in agreement.
     
  5. For almost 20 years I did not upgrade my camera. Then I switched to digital. I too update with used equipment. My first DSLR was two years old at the time and then I upgraded two years after that to another DSLR that was two years old. That was two years ago but I will be waiting at least another two years before upgrading again. While my two latest DSLRs may be getting antiquated their IQ at ISO 100 to 400 is still comparable with the latest DSLRs. I suspect that my next camera will be a used D3X, or 5D II. My preference will be to stick with the Nikon but since I have used my AIS lenses on Canon's before I am not afraid to do so again if necessary, ie best low-ISO IQ for the least money!
     
  6. I upgrade whenever new equipment solves a problem for me. The D3 solved a lot of problems in fluorescece photography (both scientific and "fun" body painting) candlelight portraiture, action, high speed imaging, and wide angle use.
    2009 came and went without any major or minor problems getting solved.
     
  7. Tomorrow I am going to shoot some shots at my daughters graduation from UCBerkely. I have decided to upgrade and will be loading Portra NC160. Just kidding sort of.
     
  8. What decade is this ? Which means, not very often.
    Part of my problem is the catch-22 of it. " I don't shot enough to justify a new camera, yet, if I had a nice DSLR, I might be shooting a lot more, by not worrying about film costs. "
    One of my other problems is that I like the heft of my F4. Not many DSLRs will feel solid to me, unless I spend BIG bucks. So, I wait and window shop and hope that technology and price will eventually hit the sweet spot I need.
     
  9. Pretty much when I can find more work to pay for the equipment. The 24mm TS comes to mind for architectural work. My line of thinking is: If I buy this lens, can I pay it back in a couple or three projects? My theory was to upgrade every other generation of camera body and use the old body as the backup, then sell the previous generations. That doesn't usually work because I find it hard to part with old friends. When the 24mp D3 becomes a prosumer variant, I'll probably buy it.
     
  10. It's funny, when I worked professionally, I hardly ever upgraded. I only bought what I needed when I needed it. Of course professional class film cameras were much more immune to obsolescence than digital equipment. I still have two Nikon F2 bodies from 40 years ago not to mention some older Leica cameras.
    For some reason, as an amateur photographer, I find myself much more susceptible to wanting the latest technology. I get caught up in all the excitement and hype whenever new equipment is announced, even though my Nikon D70 is perfectly adequate for the photography I do. I do have some self control. I just purchased a D90, but I did wait for the price to drop, and at least I have not succumbed to my huge desire to possess a Nikon D3x.
    I suppose if I worked professionally again, the pressure from a competitive standpoint would force me to upgrade almost as fast as technology advanced, and that means about every two years or so and in multiple formats.
    Amateur photography is much more fun.
     
  11. I think everyone is different. Uhmmm! I bought my first SLR when I was in high school (1982 Canon AE-1P). My second one I got it as a birthday present (1986 Canon T-90). Mi next camera was my D80 (2006). I bought it without making any research. It just felt good in my hands and it was cheaper than the D200. When the D300 came out I was already used to the Nikon system and even though I was still learning to shoot digital images i decided to go with a D300 because of the better built body and better high ISO performance. I have been tempted to buy a D700 or a used D3 but I don't really feel the need of it since what I love shooting most are birds and I rather have a cropped body.
    Lenses is a bit different. I upgraded from my 18-70 (D80 kit lens) to 17-55 coz I needed (wanted) a faster lens. Then I also bought an old AF 300 f/4 and after using it a couple of months I upgraded to the AFS 300 f/4 coz its faster AF. My last upgrade was my AF 105 Micro to the AFS. I love the AFS coz I don't use it as a macro lens so often, I like it for portraits of my kids and shooting birds at close distance.
    So I guess for me upgrading depends on having the need and not just because there is a new hot toy around.
    Then again, I love buying other toys, not really upgrading, specially if I find them at a good price!
     
  12. I shoot with a D200, and it is perfect for my requirements. I hope to upgrade my technique before upgrading the gear. Sadly, this wisdom took a lot of time and money to acquire!
     
  13. I never upgraded my Nikon SLR - I still have the original 1983 F3.
    I never got too serious about digital cameras. I had an Olympus 3MP point and shoot, then moved to a Kodak 8MP one, and I've stuck with that for the past 3 years and counting.
    Lenses - I stopped buying in 2004. I think the last one was a 300mm f/4 AFS. Really, lenses are a buy once and keep forever proposition.
    I guess Nikon hasn't gotten any equipment purchases out of me since 2004.
    I did upgrade their software though. I went from Nikon Capture NX v 1.0 to the latest 2.2.3. That resulted in paying twice - once for version 1, then again for version 2.
     
  14. Robert, I admire your lack of NAS. I sadly have had NAS since 2002 when I upgraded by N70 to an F100. Since then I've gone through many digital bodies and am on my second F100 for film. I will keep the F100 (late serial number, lightly used, $150, wow). I really want to stop buying new digital gear and just concentrate on lenses. But having been laid off last summer and now returning to school, my purchases have stopped for now.
     
  15. Huuummmmm
    Well, I started in 1980 with a Nikon FM & a 50mm lens..... Got a few more lenses - all of which was stolen before Christmas of 1981. :-( In 1982 Summer I bought a new FM & a 80-200mm lens.... Probably another 50mm as well.... Had those until 1987 after our daughter's Christening in Sweden when entrusted in my mother-in-laws hands on a flight from Stockholm to Paris. She forget the camera in the overhead compartment & I had Andrea in my arms & didn't even think about it.....
    A few years later I bought one of the Pro models used with a 50mm lens..... went through a series of P&S film cameras only to go & buy a N50 on an impulse one summer.... with a 30-70mm lens..... & added a 70-200mm lens. Had that camera & set up until I bought my D200. Was informed on DPR that my lenses were junk & started upgrading..... That started a series of purchases....
    So - originally I think I was a pretty bad Nikon customer...... Today I buy a lot of Pro level lenses & spend the money. But only when we can afford it. I'm not losing the house nor anything else for stuff from Nikon. I am however fairly up to date on my stuff...... I write fairly because I don't have the absolute latest of everything.....
    Today my attitude is - - if I need something a camera body is offering me - - then I buy it. If I need a better something in a lens - then I buy it. If & when we can afford it. :)
     
  16. I picked up a Zenit ES two years ago and upgraded to a Nikon FM six months later. Six months after that a bought an F5.
    Sold alll of that after a couple of months to buy a D700 and have just upgraded to an F100 and some ektar 100.
    My D700 is a great backup to my F100.
     
  17. I just upgraded from my Nikon FM to a D5000 body. I'm still using my AI Nikkor 35-105mm & AI Nikkor F/4.5 80-200 zoom lenses in manual mode. I still have the FM as well. I did use a Lumix ZS1 point & shoot for about 6 months. It's a great little camera with a 25-300mm (12X) zoom, but I missed the SLR and my two lenses were going to waste. I might buy a Nikon 70-300mm AF zoom in the spring (not the cheap kit lense), but I don't mind shooting in manual with the AI lenses.
     
  18. I just upgraded from my Nikon FM to a D5000 body. I'm still using my AI Nikkor 35-105mm & AI Nikkor F/4.5 80-200 zoom lenses in manual mode. I still have the FM as well. I did use a Lumix ZS1 point & shoot for about 6 months. It's a great little camera with a 25-300mm (12X) zoom, but I missed the SLR and my two lenses were going to waste. I might buy a Nikon 70-300mm AF zoom in the spring (not the cheap kit lense), but I don't mind shooting in manual with the AI lenses.
     
  19. Upgraded to an F6 about two years ago. Got two of them used and in perfect condition. They are worth more now then what I paid. This is the best camera I have ever used, so there will be no upgrading for me. Nikon will not be making another pro film camera.
    Still love my F4 and F3 too. D300 gets some use, and I won't be upgrading that.
    Anthony
     
  20. I guess that I have all I need now, lensewise. I have covered 11mm to 500mm, and I think I'm quite satisfied. Of course, I could always use faster optics, but what I really need, is more time...
     
  21. At my present rate I seem to upgrading my digital camera about every five years. The heart-breaker is always how much better and cheaper the new replacement is!
     
  22. I think Lex gave the perfect response. In a nutshell, you basically upgrade when you feel the need. I upgrade independent of what Nikon touts as the "latest and greatest," unless I can get a real bargain. I'm in the process of "upgrading" to a D300 (mint, used) because I many times need a useable 1600 ISO right out of the camera and my D200 doesn't cut it (along with less than optimal AF performance in low light sports shots of my kids). I usually try to buy used at about one generation behind to keep costs down. Some day I'll own that D700 !
     
  23. I have two criteria for upgrading. The first is at least 2 steps of technology and the second is that it has to deliver capabilities that allow me to do a better job for my clients. Usually, 2 steps of technology really allows for better options for my clients. I work with a D200 and a D700 and I might be tempted with a D700s to replace the D200, but would not purchase a second D700. I just upgraded to the new 70-200mm VRII lens and lots of misgivings about doing so. I did so because I wanted the better low light performance for my portrait and wedding work. IMHO it is an absolutely wonderful lens. Below is a recent image from using such a lens in ok but not perfect light. Shot with my D700.
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  24. First DSLR was a D100. The only reason I wanted a new model was it wasn't practical to compress raw images on the D100 and it wouldn't meter with manual focus lenses. Got a D300 and short of dropping it in the ocean I can see no practical reason for ever replacing it. I shoot for pleasure, I don't make my living with a camera AND I went through that "I've always got to have the newest, fastest," with computers.
     
  25. When I need to (job requirement) or when I have to (camera failure). To date neither criteria have applied.
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  26. If Nikon offered D3s performance (and in particular, noiseless high ISO up to 6400) in a 1.5x crop body I would upgrade sooner rather than later because it would allow me to shoot sport with lighter glass (as was the case with the above shot, D200 with 70-300G VR at 300 mm, 1/200 sec, f/6.3 and ISO 280, 0.67 EV handheld with VR on).
     
  27. I'm still shooting the D70 I bought years ago. It does everything I need it to do. Even after spending two weeks in India with a D700 I don't feel the need to upgrade. In fact during that trip I was wishing for my lighter D70 and 18-55mm f2.8 vs. the D700 with the 24-70 f2.8. There is a lot to be said for APSc sensors and the smaller, lighter, optic they allow. I would like to add to my lens collection. A 35mm f2.0 would be fun as would a 85mm f1.8.
     
  28. I have been through many bodies and a few different formants and brands looking for the best compromise. I have purchased new a few times but mostly used. I will purchase a few more lenses but I hope to wear out my D700. I wish the D700 was a pound lighter but otherwise it is very good for my needs. IMHO its best to upgrade when a need occurs not when NAS strikes.
     
  29. I'd maybe upgrade if the D300 went down to £400(including all customs charges etc.) or so, but that won't be for a while. My D40 is just fine so far(though the kit lens leaves plenty to be desired). Suffice to say, if I do upgrade my Nikon gear, it'll be lenses first.
     
  30. I've spent my money on a good range of lenses:
    50 mm f1.4
    80-200 mm f2.8
    18-200mm VR
    All I really need now is a wide lens in the 10-20mm range.
    The D200 works well and my next upgrade is to a used D300 when the price is right (I will keep my D200 as a backup).
     
  31. I just upgraded for the coming holidays: I'll be shooting Kodak Portra and Fuji 160C instead of Superia 200 and 400. It cost me 3 times as much per roll, but the memories are worth it.
    On film cameras, the body never matters: it's the glass + film that makes the difference. On digital, it's the same story: glass + sensor. Camera makers should make fewer bodies, but incorporate replaceable sensor modules for different applications. I would like to see a B&W sensor, IR sensor, and even switchable FF and crop sensors to fit in an amateur body like a D60, D90, or D200. There could be high ISO/low res sensors, and color saturated sensors. Imagine picking up a half dozen unique sensors for $200 each. That's an upgrade that would actually make a difference. It doesn't make any sense to invest $5000 for an entire new camera just to get the one updated sensor that is inside of it. You know you are paying for additional features and other crap you might not need as well.
     
  32. I'll upgrade when - and only when - I look at my best work and say to myself "damn, that would have been a much better photograph if I had used a (insert desired upgrade here)". In my case I'm sure my equipment (Nikon) is already better than my ability to use it, and even though I do have a bad case of Nikon Aquisition Syndrome I'm going to stick with what I have for now. I don't make enough money from photographs to justify buying the new stuff I'd like. If I hit the lottery, though, all bets are off.....
     
  33. I do not upgrade lenses! That is the point of the Nikon system, right: backward compatibility. I still use my 25 years old AiS lenses on my D200.
    Cameras may be different. Switching to digital from film was an upgrade, I suppose. When full frame cameras become cheaper, and my camera reaches dozens of thousand actuations, I would perhaps get tempted to get one.
     
  34. I have two Nikon F2's w/ MD-2's and my D700. All of my Nikkors, from 16mm to 500mm reflex, are AI's (except the 500mm of course), and range in age from 1976 until about 1987. One is a converted non-AI. I have absolutely no reason to upgrade anything and do not plan on buying any of Nikon's new lenses. I will take prime's over zooms any day, and twice on Sunday.
     
  35. If I think that new equipment will make my job easier, or give me a competitive advantage, I'll jump on it. That seldom happens, though the D3x has proven to be a very good investment.
     
  36. I started out photography back in the 90s with Minolta 35mm, then switched to Nikon AF cameras around mid 90s, then upgraded to Nikon digital cameras around 2005-present... so I'm guessing every 6-8 years. Lenses/flash units I upgrade, buy, & sell all the time. I don't like to hold on to equipment that just sits there never to be used again.
     
  37. Not really upgrading, more like getting rid of what I don't use.
    I have a D70, N90, F2. I have sold my F3, FE, Nikkormat and all non Ai lenses. Since purchaseing the D70 (used, with several good lenses for a great price), I have used film less and less, hence the sale of non essential Nikon Film equipment. I also shoot rangefinders from time to time...Zorki 3m, Fed IIIe and I have a Leica IIIc and Contax IIIa waiting for CLA.
    At this time, my primary Nikon lenses are a Tokina 28-80mm 2.8 and a Nikon 70-300m 3.5-4.5. The Tokina gets most use and thanks to the fast aperture works very well in low light situations. I have also retained several Nikon Primes- 35 f2, 50 F1.4, 105 F2 that all work in manual mode on the D70.
    I also watch for people selling their Nikon film equipment so I can pick up film era lenses cheaply.
    The D70 is very usefull and I can experiment with shots and approaches to my hearts content without wasting film. I do bump up agains the limitations of the camera, but I can also work around them.
    I have thought about updating, but critera are a meaninful jump in resolution (at least 10 if not 12mp), better metering, faster autofocus and this is non negotiable, full backward compatability with all post Ai Nikon manual and auto lenses. This means I would start looking at the D90 and above, which makes cost a significant factor.
    Lastly, Photoshop has become a necessary tool for extracting the best image from the D70, as well as playing around with scanned negatives taken with other cameras.
     
  38. I have four F2 bodies, two MD-2s, an FM with MD-12 and a dozen or so Nikkor prime lenses, not to mention tons of darkroom and lighting equipment. All of this lasted me from the 70s up through about three or four years ago when I got a D200 and a couple of Tokina zooms. So I guess I upgrade about every 30 years. :) Actually I can shoot just about any picture I want with the D200, just as I could with the F2s, so I'm in no rush to upgrade for the sake of upgrading.
     
  39. When I can't do something that need to do with what I already have.
     
  40. I am a Nikon most preferred customer :). Since I bought my first DSLR camera D80 in March 2008, I bought 3 more Nikon camera bodies: D300, D700 and D90 (D80 and D90 have passed to my son. At least I get him interested in photography). I also bought some lenses: 105mm, 28-70mm, 70-200mm f2.8 (2 each), 300mm f/4, 80-400mm f4.5-6.5, 50mm f1.8, and two more 18-200mm.
    However, I do have some controls. My heart is now set on the 200-400mm f4. But, I could not find the justification to spend $6K on this lens. I am still new in this game. I am waiting for the stock prices go up.
     
  41. It depends on whether I am motivated for a new tool or new toy. New tool when I need it, new toy, when I want it. Sometimes, I am lucky and it is both. Sorry, cant get excited about things like new sand bags or light stands- boom arms can be amusing though, or down right terror producing. Now, a new camera body with all those buttons and dials. Sweet. Ah, the new camera smell. Just have to take it for a drive. I wish Nikon would add fins and spinners.
     
  42. New tool when I need it, new toy, when I want it.​
    Sorry Bob, I just can't resist: According to my wife: it is a toy when we guys are under a certain age. We call the same object a tool if we are over that age!
    :)
     
  43. Per-Christian, your wife is so right. I think quoting her on line should earn you some new tools. (just tryin to help a fellow photographer, we have to stick together.)
     

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