When I wanted to get into Medium Format I tried to buy a Hassleblad 500Cm from an Estate of a coworker of mine whose husband had passed away. I had about $800 with me which 10 years ago was allot of money for me. The camera was located in this antique photography store that has long since gone out of business. I plopped my $800 on the counter and the guy behind it hands me the "Back" of the 500CM. I asked him where is the rest of the camera ? He says that's it, that's all you can get with that type of money ! He then pointed me to a Mamiya 645 that came with a grip an 80mm f 2.8 lens, a 45mm lens, a strap and I still had money to left over to purchase a Gossen light meter and some film. I didn't want to dissapoint my coworker by not buying anything from her husbands estate. I have been a Mamiya fan ever since. Of course the batteries on this camera are a PIA, the winder is another weak spot, but as far as the image is concerned, I don't see that much of a difference if you pick your lenses wisely. Since then, the price for Hassy's have gone down tremendously, but not as much as the price for Mamiyas. I have a whole assortment of Mamiya lenses now and although I have gone through 2 cameras it wasnt like when my camera died it was the death of sibling. Maybe one day I would like to move up to Hassleblad. I sure like that model with the Digi back.