capocheny Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Greetings, Does anyone here use Graflex filmholders in a standard Graflock back? Are they compatible in the first place? Thanks in advance for any info. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickc1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 According to www.graflex.org "The Graflex Back was offered on some Pacemaker models as an option, but is usually found on the "Graflex" SLR cameras. It features separate removable focusing panel, as in the Graflok back, but is not a desirable feature on a Graphic. Graflex back cut film holders and Grafmatic backs are a larger size than Graphic and Graflex back items, and are often difficult to obtain." see http://www.graflex.org/speed-graphic/features.html#GraflokBack Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capocheny Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Hi Nick, Thanks kindly for the answer. I'm thinking I should have elaborated on the type of camera these holders are destined for... The holders are designated for a Deardorff 5x7 with a standard graflock back. From my reading of the link you posted... it doesn't sound sound like a fit. :( I've also read somewhere that there are grooves in the holders and that these must fit into grooves in the back of the camera... or something like that? Any other comments? :) TIA Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_noel1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 A point to rremember is that the Graflex company made two types of holders. One is the very common graphic holder which has a ridge designed to fit into a groove in the back of the camera focusing panel. The other has has a groove designed to fit over the ridge made into the back of the Graflex cameras. The two are not interchangeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capocheny Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Hi James, Thank you... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenthumbs Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Graflex corp. used many varriations of its name resulting in confusion for general users, thus: Graphic back=focus panel mounted on springs allowing film holders to be sliped between the frame and focus panel also called a spring back, accepts film holders often called standard type. Graflex back=no focus panel, fixed bar on bottom and sliding bar on top to secure film holder, ridge on back of camera mates into valley on film holder to form light trap, graflex film holder 1/4 inch wider and same length as standard film holders. Graflok back=became industry standard, sliding bar top and bottom to secure film holder to back, removable focus panels, accepts what became industry standard film holders with single or double bar on darkslide end with the inner one mating with valley in camera back to form the light trap. Graflex Riteway film holders are graflok type and will work with most cameras, Graflex graflex film holders will not. Graflex backs were for the SLR series of cameras but were put on Pacemaker cameras upon request of photographers who used the SLR's as a convience. Simple solution=look at the light trap, single or bouble bar=graflok; valley=graflex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_s Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 It's hard to figure out exactly what you've got without a picture, but it's unlikely that there's any incompatibility. If a holder fits in a standard spring back, it will fit in a standard Graflok/international back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_wilson Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Not trying to hijack your thread, but I have the Graflok back on my pacemaker and find it is difficult to fine focus with a loup given my aged eyes. Does anyone else have this problem with this fine 4x5 camera? How do you handle the problem? Remove the graflok back and focus w/ the dark cloth and loupe? Thanks for everyone's input. JW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnanian Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 hi there - i've tons of the grooved 4x5 holders, but none of the 5x7 ones. you might give look to a place like equinox photographic ( equinoxphotographic.com ) a call. they tend to have just that sort of thing. they are nice folks too. good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capocheny Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 Hi all, Dave, I was considering buying graflex film holders for my 5x7 Dorff... they were on *ba* and I thought I'd pose the question here before making a bid. At the end of the day... I decided against bidding. Jon, Not a problem... ask away! :) J, Thanks for the lead... Cheers all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capocheny Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 Charles, Hmmm... lots of good information there. Thank you for clarifying the situation. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profhlynnjones Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Let's get out terms together. Gralex 4X5 film holders have a different depth (several thousandth of an inch different) than the standard Graphic 4x5 film holder and the physical size is slightly different. Calumet's former owner (Fred Perkins, still, I think) owns Graphic, Lisco, and Fidelity film holders, that is just about 99% of the business. Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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