Fomapan200 and XTOL 1+1

Discussion in 'Black and White' started by ron_west|1, Sep 2, 2006.

  1. Hi All,

    I'm new to B&W and development and want to try using and developing Fomapan200
    and developing it in XTOL deluted 1+1 but cannot find any times listed for XTOL
    deluted only undeluted with Fomapan200 in 135 film? Is there a reason for this?
    Is anyone using XTOL 1+1 and if so what development time would you recommend at
    20C?
    Thanks, Ron

    PS. Sorry if this question has been asked before but I've been searching for the
    answer for hours and can find nothing.
     
  2. Seven to eight minutes does it for me - using and E.I. of 200. The film
    curls like a watch spring.
     
  3. Thanks Don....Any Idea why 1+1 delution is excluded from developing lists?....Ron
     
  4. Probably because anyone who's tried it with any success hasn't asked that the database be updated, or the admin of Digital Truth didn't update the data if any were submitted.
     
  5. "The film curls like a watch spring."

    Are you talking about 120 or 35mm format? I've shot/souped one roll of 35mm (Arista.EDU Ultra version - should be identical) and didn't experience any unusual curl. Lovely film, by the way.

    120 is probably a different story, based on my experience with Foma 400 in 120. The stuff curls (as in wants to wind back up) like crazy. Do they use a curling iron as part of the manufacturing process?
     
  6. Hi Ron,
    the Fomadon Excel film developer produced by FOMA is identical to Kodak XTOL. You can find development times suggested by FOMA for Fomapan200 in Fomadon Excel at this address:
    http://www.freestylephoto.biz/pdf/Fomapan_200.pdf#search=%22fomapan%2B200%2Bcreative%22
    They do not give indications for the 1+1 dilution, but their suggestions are a good starting point.
    Good luck,
    Antonio Federici
     
  7. Are you talking about 120 or 35mm format? I've shot/souped one roll of
    35mm (Arista.EDU Ultra version - should be identical) and didn't
    experience any unusual curl. Lovely film, by the way.

    Mitchell: I am talking about 135 Fomapan 200 as sold by J&C. I don't know
    about being identical. Seems to me that there are too many authorities
    contending that "things are identical" without expressing their credentials
    or source of informaton. That sort of thing is rampant on this forum.

    Further, I have developed over forty rolls of this this film and found the
    curl to be consistent.
     
  8. Hi Donald,
    a source of information about interesting similarities can be found here:
    http://www.digitaltruth.com/chart/unlisted.html
    Other sources are available if you are interested.
    However, FOMA itself gives contrast-time curves, and other data about FOMA films under the double heading: "Fomadon Excel/Kodak XTol".
    Regards,
    Antonio Federici
     

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