graskett Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I've done the forum search in photo.net and really haven't gotten the answer I am looking for so don't rake me over the coals here. I have a fairly good arsenal of lenses--all Canon including a 70-200 L f/2.8, 300mm L f/4, 17-40mm L f/4, 100mm f/2.8 Macro and a 50mm f/1.8 EF II. I shoot with a 40D and have a 30D backup body. My primary walk around is the 50mm but I find it restrictive when just out and about shooting general subjects--meaning nothing in particular. I'd like to have the versatility of an intermediate zoom. I'd love to purchase a Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 or 24-105 f/4 but my budget is about half of what those babies run. I've used both and the IQ for either is incredible. I'm looking for a lens in that focal range that offers good IQ and preferable a fixed aperture for a walk around zoom in the $600 range. Also, I prefer to purchase exclusively new and have no interest in a used lens from e-bay. Any recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr._b Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I'd stick it out with my 17-40mm until I had the money for the EF-S 17-55mm F/2.8 IS or the 24-70mm F/2.8 L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletsalvador Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I think it really depends on what type of subjects you tend to shoot. I absolutely love my EF-S 17-55mm F/2.8IS and though I feel the focal length maybe a little short at times, realistically I don't see myself carrying anything else as a general walk-around lens. If you tend to shoot with you 17-40mm f/4L and don't intend in upgrading on a full-frame anytime soon I would suggest selling your 17-40mm and purchasing the 17-55mm. You will sacrifice build quality but will gain speed and image-stabilization. The way I see it, just take good care of your lens and it shouldn't break. Moreover, the 17-55mm has a pretty good resale value and you may purchase it at reputable sites for below msrp. I got mine at b&h photo for $820. Here is my flickr -> *The majority of my shots were shot with the a Canon 40D, Canon 17-55mm F2.8IS, and Canon 580EX II. Good luck. ~Bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendel_leisk Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 "My primary walk around is the 50mm but I find it restrictive when just out and about shooting general subjects" Try a Canon 35mm f2.0, for starters. Or wider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_mcclinch Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 How about the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8? It's well within your price range (streets around $400) and is reported to be a good performer. It's not a pro-grade lens, but it's damn good for a $400 lens. Otherwise, I'm in the camp that says save up for a Canon 24-70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony_zipple Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Consider a 28-135 IS. It is not the fastest lens, but it does have IS. It is not as sharp as a 24-105, but it has a useful range, is quite good optically for the modest weight and price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken munn Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Sigma 18-50 f2.8 or Tamron 17-50 F2.8. Call them 28-80 in full frame terms. At that focal length range, I'd rather have f2.8 than IS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riza_mulia Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 . I LOVE IT. There's a lot of good reviews and comparisons on this web and others. For $400 walkaround mid range zoom, its very, very recommended! ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Use the 17 to 40 and get an inexpensive fast 35mm (or wider) and put it in your pocket (or on the other body) for when you need the lens speed. But, that is from my personal bias. I would want to get either the 24 to 70F2.8L, you mention, mainly BECAUSE it is faster than the 17 to 40; (not necessarily because it is longer). The exact PRIORITY of addressing the limitations you have in your 17 to 40 as a walk around are not actually stated in the question: one could assume not long enough, or not fast enough, or both equally? ? ? WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I use the non 'L' series 28-105mm 3.5/4.5 for just plain walking around. It's light unobtrusive has great range, great for Travel and you can purchase it for less than $300. If I have a professional shoot, I switch to the 24-70mm f2.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_barbu1 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I agree completely with Mr. B, and would like to add that you should consider how much you use 17-23mm, and whether or not selling that lens (the 17-40mm) is an option for you. Also, consider if you have any intention of buying an APS-H or full frame body in the future, before buying an EF-S lens (since you always buy new lenses, you would take a hit when selling). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e._r._averitt Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 The Canon 24-85mm f3.5/4.5 is another full frame lens. At 380grams, it is light enough to carry all day. Not as fast, or robust as an "L", but cost is a lot less. Has decent IQ when stopped down to 5.6 to 8.0; with fast USM and FTM focus, makes a great travel lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e._r._averitt Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 If you can find an used 28-70 f2.8l, this will probably be your best bet. Current cost at KEH will set you back $750 to $850.00, depending on the condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I second the Tamron 28-75 as a great walk around lens. Its light, very high quality photos. also takes good close up shots and its affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
music man5 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Find a used 24-105mm f/4L (if possible) that is within your budget. It's a great walk around lens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_barbu1 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 E.R., Gary is looking for a lens with "a fixed aperture". That rules out the lens you suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savas_kyprianides Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 70-200 f/4 L IS is surprisingly light considering it's length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_berkowski Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I have a 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM and second that for consideration. It's not a fixed apeture, as someone pointed out, but if you need to compromise on one or more of your requirements, it's worth a look. It's light. It's relatively cheap. It has good focal length for my walking around (on a full frame body). It focuses faster than a 50 f/1.4. It has light falloff (forget what that is called) that is noticeable at times on my 5D, but on a crop body, you might not ever have to deal with that since you'll use the inside part of the lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e._r._averitt Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 "E.R., Gary is looking for a lens with "a fixed aperture". That rules out the lens you suggested." Did you see my 2nd recommended lens? That one is a 2.8, an L to boot. Twice the cost of the 24-85 variable aperture, and weight is more than twice the 24-85.(approx.880grams vs 380grams). There is no perfect lens. Each one will be a compromise, one way or the other. I stand by my choice's of the 24-85mm f3.5-4.5 or the 28-70mmm f2.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graskett Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 Thanks to all. I really appreciate all the input. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_barbu1 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 <p><i>Did you see my 2nd recommended lens?</i></p><p>I did, though I missed that it was also posted from you -- probably from reading too fast. Nevertheless, by standing by your choice, you may be confident in your choice, but ignoring the needs of the original poster. Yeah, you mentioned the 28-70, but ignored that he prefers to purchase new.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e._r._averitt Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Touch鍊 Perfect walk around lens does not exist. All are indeed, compromises. E. R. Averitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_barbu1 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Again, you read text on this page, and translate it to what you want it to mean, rather than using the actual definition of the word. He did not ask for <a href="http://www.answers.com/perfect">perfect</a>. He asked for <a href="http://www.answers.com/best">best</a>. Perfect is absolute. Best is relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e._r._averitt Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Touch? was typed in as touche. Well taken point M. Barbou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_barbu1 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 You can use <code><b>é</b></code> to represent <b>é</b>. Just be sure to select "HTML" rather than "Plain Text" in the pulldown menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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