patric_dahl_n Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 You say that your recommended tomes for Plus-X, at EI 100, developed in Agfa 17 1:1 at 72º F is 20 minutes. <p> I haven't tried Plus-X yet in Agfa 17, but the times for Efke films and Ilford Pan F+ isn't much longer than with D-76. I have used Agfa 17 1+1 at 20ºC for 9 minutes with Efke R 50 and Ilford Pan F+, and found it to be right. The recommeded times for same films in D-76 is 8 and 8 ½ minutes. <p> Are you really sure that 20 minutes is correct? At 20ºC the times would be 21-22 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed b. Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Patric--It has been 10 years at least since I tested Agfa 17 with Plus X. When I get home I will look through my negatives again and see if I can find any notes on this combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed b. Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Patric. The Plus-X in Agfa 17 was done in 1989. I note there is a roll before the one at 20 minutes that was developed for 45 minutes in Agfa 17 (1:1), and is extremely overdeveloped. I can't imagine why I would use such a long developing time unless I were testing reduced agitation. The next roll, developed for 20 minutes at 72 degrees looks very nice. I suspect that I reduced agitation to maybe once every two minutes, but I didn't record it. Let us know your results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patric_dahl_n Posted April 23, 2002 Author Share Posted April 23, 2002 Thanks. I have a roll of Plus-X that's waiting for the soup. I will try Agfa 17, 1+1 at 20ºC for 10 minutes and see how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander_selzer Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Hi! Just to post times for Agfa APX 100. I've tested it in Agfa 17 a few years ago (and didn't use it for a few years, too) and got the following results: 5 min (beta=0,5; 21 DIN) 8 min (beta=0,6; 22,5 DIN) 13 min (beta=0,75; 24 DIN) Agitation: Const. for the first minute, then every 30 sec. <p> Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patric_dahl_n Posted April 26, 2002 Author Share Posted April 26, 2002 Alex, was the developer straight or diluted? I don't think I will try Agfa 17 with APX 100 because it's too close to D-76 and I have never got good results with that developer and APX 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patric_dahl_n Posted April 29, 2002 Author Share Posted April 29, 2002 I developed my first roll of PX in Agfa 17, and 11-12 minutes at 20ºC seem correct. <p> Ed, your times for Efke films in Rodinal are too long as well... <p> This is my times for Rodinal 1+50 at 20ºC <p> Efke 25 4-4½ min Efke 50 4½ min Efke 100 5 - 5½ min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander_selzer Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 Patric, it was in straight developer. <p> Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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