tm_photography Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I've been trying to work this out for several days and lord knows I'm no wizard at math but I just can't seem to figure it out. I have Ansel Adams 3 book series but he just teased me. I'll explain how in a moment. My question is this. If a change of 1 full fstop doubles or halves the light reaching the film, what does 1.4 and 1/3 stops do in that regard. How much less light reaches the lens if I close down 1/3 of a stop? Ansel Adams says see book two because it is equivelent to a change in asa number of one asa number. But in book two he merely says ever 3 asa numbers = 1 stop. I know I get hung up on the numbers, maybe because I'm not good at math, but I ran it past a friend of mine who is very good at math and he couldn't figure it out either. Can someone please tell me by what percentage the light increases or decreases at a change of 1/3 fstop and 1/4 fstop? Thanks Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Cooper11664875449 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Tim, Have a think about this: ...the formula for any ISO value is the base value multiplied by 2 to the power of the stop increment. So 125 opened up 1/3 of a stop is 160: (125 x 2^0.33)<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Numbers in the full stop step sequence are related by a factor of 2^(1/2) = (1.414), adjacent numbers in the 1/2 stop sequence are related by a factor of 2^(1/4) =(1.189) and in the 1/3 stop sequence they are related by a factor of 2^(1/6) (1.122). The amount of light passing at he various aperture is given by 2^(fractional stop), so for 1/3 stops it's 2^(1/3), which is the cube root of 2 which is 1.26, so opening up by 1/3 stop allows 26% more light to pass. For a 1/4 stop it's 2^(1/4) which is 1.189, so opening up by a quarter stop allows 18.9% more light to pass. Bob Atkins - Technical Editor, Photo.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 The old 1960's and 1970's SPIE engineering books have the asa specs as being grouped to the nearest 1/3 stop. Thus the recommended film box numbers are marked in a sequence of 100, 125, 160, 200 . . . the cube root of 3 is about 1.26. For practical reasons the numbers are rounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_clark Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 And third stop increments sorta match .1 logarithmic increments used in density and signal/noise ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 A 1/3 stop increase is about 26 percent more light. A 1/4 stop increase is about 19 percent. What I've never understood is why, since film speed increments are 1/3 stop, lenses are adjustable in 1/2 stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 "What I've never understood is why, since film speed increments are 1/3 stop, lenses are adjustable in 1/2 stops." And who promised you that photography was going to be simple ? It is the same reason for which Leonardo used to write using a mirror image and a code: only people smart enough to figure this out should be allowed to practise the art...:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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