Allen Herbert Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Yes, us street/documentary photographers have something to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Allen Herbert Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5yiYXzhv_U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Those are mostly documentary photos, not street photos. I'm not sure how much they've changed the world as much as they've shown it for what it is. It's up to those of us seeing or making the pictures to change the world, but too often we languish in sympathetic emotions for what is shown and then doing nothing. 2 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 "samstevens New Those are mostly documentary photos, not street photos" Sam. Does it really matter? They are all telling a story regardless of the distinction you imply. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Title of forum Forums > Practice and Technique > Street and Documentary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Title of forum Forums > Practice and Technique > Street and Documentary Yes, I know it's both and have posted documentary photos to this forum myself. I made the distinction because the photos posted were not street/documentary but documentary and my sense is that documentary photos have probably had more historical effect than street photos, even though I happen to appreciate and dabble in both. But, thanks, JDM, for the bold red text emergency notice! "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Seaman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Perhaps the forum should be re-named "Street and/or Documentary" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 POST NO BILLS :rolleyes: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) BILL BRANDT [He started with PHOTOJOURNALISM (which I believe this forum also covers) and went onto do more ART PHOTOGRAPHY (which is posted here for illustrative and comparative purposes).] Edited December 20, 2019 by samstevens "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_farmer Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Wait . . . Some of those are videos and almost none actually show streets! Is there any chance that, with the limited attention these forums get, we actually discuss content instead of classification? I remember the vast majority of the images in both of these videos and still found myself tearing up while watching. But, the photos do not change the world. They provide impetus for actions that change the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Is there any chance that, with the limited attention these forums get, we actually discuss content instead of classification? Sure. They've been up for over a month, so there's been ample opportunity to add anything of substance to the discussion. I happen to agree with what you've said about the photos themselves, and you may note that I already said as much in my first post to the thread. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemorrell Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I don't see most of these images as 'street' images. But I have great respect for these powerful iconic images and for the photographers who made them. They did indeed have a great influence on public opinion. I mean no disrespect to either the photographers or the photos. But it did occur to me that many of the photos are relatively old (1920's-1970's). There have been very many 'world events' since then which have been photographed. Too many to name. Just think of Kosovo, wars, terrorist bombings, oppression and famine in many countries across the world. And also photos of people that - in defiance of their circumstances - try to make things better. I doubt whether any selection of these images would fit onto a video of any length. It just seems to me that - while remembering the documented past - we should also remember the - as yet - undocumented recent past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_farmer Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 But, Mike . . . If the idea is to show "photographs that have changed the world" the vast majority ARE going to be older pictures. Images shot more recently have had less to time to have influence and the impact of photography has been shaken by video and shorter news cycles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_scott2 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Yeah, maybe it's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwen_shafer Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) Not my photos. Ukraine aircraft shot down in Iran: LINK 1 LINK 2 Mod Note: Post has been edited, you may only post images that you made yourself. Edited January 14, 2020 by William Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bijutoha Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 This is an epic thread! Some photos made me cry! Really there are some of the most influential photos from Earth's history. Definitely unforgettable images. I do review photos, edit and make necessary changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
httpwww.photo.netbarry Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Those are mostly documentary photos, not street photos. I'm not sure how much they've changed the world as much as they've shown it for what it is. It's up to those of us seeing or making the pictures to change the world, but too often we languish in sympathetic emotions for what is shown and then doing nothing. Some of them changed the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Some of them changed the world. Which ones and specifically how? "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
httpwww.photo.netbarry Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Ok Sam, I'll play. the photo of the street execution and the photo of the naked girl after a napalm attack definitely brought the Vietnam war home sufficiently to get TV involved in covering the war daily, and those photos, including the photo of the young women putting a flour in the soldiers rifle changed public attitude here in the states which ultimately altered the course of the war. Absolute effect of photographs. And of course that doesn't disagree with the point that photographs bring the story to the viewer, they don't create the story. But that the important effect of the best documentary photography. By bringing the information to the reader, that information can change people's attitudes and perceptions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I don't see most of these images as 'street' images. But I have great respect for these powerful iconic images and for the photographers who made them. They did indeed have a great influence on public opinion. I mean no disrespect to either the photographers or the photos. But it did occur to me that many of the photos are relatively old (1920's-1970's). There have been very many 'world events' since then which have been photographed. Too many to name. Just think of Kosovo, wars, terrorist bombings, oppression and famine in many countries across the world. And also photos of people that - in defiance of their circumstances - try to make things better. I doubt whether any selection of these images would fit onto a video of any length. It just seems to me that - while remembering the documented past - we should also remember the - as yet - undocumented recent past. Which terrorist bombings? The ones coming from the east or west? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Those are mostly documentary photos, not street photos. I'm not sure how much they've changed the world as much as they've shown it for what it is. It's up to those of us seeing or making the pictures to change the world, but too often we languish in sympathetic emotions for what is shown and then doing nothing. It’s the Street and Documentary forum. Has had the word ‘documentary’ in the title like forever. What’s up guys? This website still alive or nah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 It’s the Street and Documentary forum. Has had the word ‘documentary’ in the title like forever. What’s up guys? This website still alive or nah? Read carefully and in context. My comment was in response to someone who referenced street photography when talking about these photos. I was simply saying these were documentary photos. I’ve been around long enough to know this is the street AND documentary forum. My comment had NOTHING to do with the title of the forum itself and everything to do with the photos up for discussion. What’s up, indeed. The website is still alive, but only to the extent we keep it alive. In that spirit, maybe consider addressing the documentary photos offered in the OP. That would add substance and show an interest in the life of the site. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemorrell Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I wasn't thinking of any specific examples. Just in the general sense of "The use or threat of violence in the pursuit of political, religious, ideological or social objectives ..." (Wikepedia). The 10.000 bombings in Ireland and the UK between 1 Which terrorist bombings? The ones coming from the east or west? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemorrell Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Edit time ran out: I condemn any and all terrorist attacks. Not all of which (during the last 40 years) fit neatly into any broad 'east-west' container. Looking at the selection of photo's again and the website TIME’s 100 Most Influential Images of All Time I can't argue with the selection. Maybe the photo's of the 1990's just haven't been as iconic as thes are. Miike Which terrorist bombings? The ones coming from the east or west? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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