Vincent Peri Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I was out taking photos today with my motorized Nikon FA loaded with a roll of Provia 100, 36 exposure film. When I got to exp 36, I thought... maybe 1 or two more photos to go. However when I had shot exp 37, the film still advanced fully. I thought, this is my lucky day... 38 photos on this roll. However, I managed to shoot off another 4 or 5 pictures before the film stopped advancing. I've never seen anything like this before. Has anyone else had an experience like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 In my case when this happened it was because the film was NOT advancing at all - it had been loaded wrong, come off the take-up spool, the film had broken, or come off the feeder roll. Before trying to rewind, open the camera up in a changing bag or darkroom and feel if the film is being taken up on the spool. Of course, depending on the camera, it is also possible that the counter was somehow reset or not set properly., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 In my case when this happened it was because the film was NOT advancing at all - it had been loaded wrong, come off the take-up spool, the film had broken, or come off the feeder roll. Before trying to rewind, open the camera up in a changing bag or darkroom and feel if the film is being taken up on the spool. Of course, depending on the camera, it is also possible that the counter was somehow reset or not set properly., The film was definitely advancing. The only thing I can think of, as you mentioned, is that the counter only reset to exposure 6 or so when I loaded the film. I tell ya, these Nikon FA cameras are an adventure LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikheilrokva Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Have you actually developed and counted the frames on the film? Until then it's all speculation. My Contax II "took" 42 frames a year ago. Turns out it broke after 32nd frame so I got one "multiexposure" picture which consisted of ten exposures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I have had older cameras, where there isn't so much friction on the take-up spool. (It has to have some give, to allow for different amounts of film on the spool.) In one case I remember, a Mercury II (fun camera, by the way) I was watching for it, and the rewind knob stopped moving. In some cameras, the film might not advance a full frame, there will be overlap, and you will get more than 38. It is usual to get 38 on a 36 roll, though often that is 0 to 37 on the counter. There are stories of the Nikon F motor drive breaking the spool (if the tape is strong enough) and pulling spool pieces through the back of the camera. I suspect that the FA doesn't do that, though. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 [quote="glen_h, post: 5666799, member: 4549066" There are stories of the Nikon F motor drive breaking the spool (if the tape is strong enough) and pulling spool pieces through the back of the camera. I suspect that the FA doesn't do that, though. Right, the MD15 stops when the final frame is shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Vincent, Have you shot this FA before? Is it possible that it's not advancing every frame fully? I've run into that before, although it seems unlikely. Mechanically it's the bullet proof FM2/FE2, just with electronics that sometimes leave you scratching your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Hi Ben, No, this is the first roll of film I've put through it. The motor drive sure sounded like it was fully advancing the film, but I'll find out by next week when I get the film back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikheilrokva Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Still waiting for the update. Very curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 Still waiting for the update. Very curious. I have the film all packed up and ready to mail to the lab. It took a while to get enough film to make it worthwhile. Sorry for the delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikheilrokva Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I thought the thread was forgotten as it happens sometimes :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 Quick update... I just received notice that the roll of film has been shipped to me. Should arrive later this week. Probably the results will be anticlimactic.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 The mystery Provia roll was returned today. Originally, I was wondering why I managed to get about 41/42 exposures on the roll. The mystery is now officially solved - There were 5 frames overlapping/double exposed. So, the film transport system in the camera has a problem which I'll have to get fixed (unlikely) or keep the camera for parts... eyepiece, camera back, finger grip, etc. Nothing to see here... move along, keep moving.... LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Is it just the ones at the end, or spaced throughout the roll. If at the end, then just watch the counter, and rewind knob, and stop early enough. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 Is it just the ones at the end, or spaced throughout the roll.... They were all in the very middle of the roll, one after the other. Then the rest of the roll was fine. Now I'm not sure if the motor drive messed up, or if the problem is in the camera's film transport. I've got the camera loaded up with a roll of Kentmere 100 film to see if I can duplicate the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikheilrokva Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 And I thought Fuji somehow turned into an incarnation of generosity itself and began to produce films with 42 frames on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Sorry to hear the camera was faulty. The only time that ever happened to me, the film disconnected from the spool. After rewinding, I opened the door and found all my film still on the take up side... everything was lost. BTW another situation was bulk loaded film, Those bulk loader counters arent really accurate. The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 Sorry to hear the camera was faulty. The only time that ever happened to me, the film disconnected from the spool. After rewinding, I opened the door and found all my film still on the take up side... everything was lost. BTW another situation was bulk loaded film, Those bulk loader counters arent really accurate. You must have missed reading posts #13 up to your post. The mystery was solved. The film transport in the camera or in the motor drive began slipping mid roll and double exposed 5 frames. It was a standard Provia 100 cartridge, no bulk loaded cassette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Yes I saw you said the camera was faulty, film slipping. Have you sorted out why the film slipped? Sometimes its the leader on the take up that slips or tension springs may be weak. The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 I don't know why the film slipped mid-roll. I'm going to shoot half a test roll of film without the motor drive attached, then the last half w/the motor drive.and see if the problem repeats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G. Dainis Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Moderator note: Several posts have been deleted which were little more than two posters exchanging ad hominem attacks. James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck909 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Is there any chance you depressed the rewind button? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 Is there any chance you depressed the rewind button? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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