Automatic logout annoyance

It's rather annoying. "Safety" was given as a reason for not allowing the user to stay logged in indefinitely (as was possible with the old site); I can't comment on that as I don't have a clue what that's supposed to mean.<br><br> What I do know is how annoying this has become: on my tablet and smartphone, I can't save the login credentials, so I have to type them every time; on the desktop that's a non-issue thankfully. <br><br> And why do I end up at my portfolio page - surely I could at the very least have a choice or be directed to the same page I was on when the automatic logoff threw me out? Especially when I was in the process of typing a response in the forum. Can't the software not recognize that I am actually ACTIVE and thus extend my login period until such time when I am INACTIVE?<br><br>And while I am here - is there any ETA for this paragraph break issue?

This is also my one of my many big peeves with the new site, all it takes is a 'stay logged in' box to tick, really, why not?

It pisses me off that much that I have joined APUG, Rangefindeforum and Flickr and giving up here, it's just become a pain in the arse to use, not consumer friendly. In fact on my new smartphone logging in is a real pain so I simply don't bother, I only use my laptop for this site.

And yes I have copied this same comment into other threads on the subject, we're hardly the only people pissed off about this

Something tells me this forced logging off has less to do with safety and more to do with measuring traffic for site analysis. Other photo sites like Luminous Landscape allow indefinite login. If it is about safety then, I think site administration should explain how so. I'm on a password protected computer where I'm the only user. I leave my home I put my computer to sleep where if it is stolen, a password is required for start up and wake from sleep.

more to do with measuring traffic for site analysis.

Since the site can monitor what I am doing at any point in time, it would also know when I was last active and hence there should be no need to use "logged in" as a measure for traffic. Besides, wouldn't it look better if the number of users logged in was actually larger than the between 20-70 that I usually see displayed?

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I leave my home I put my computer to sleep where if it is stolen, a password is required for start up and wake from sleep.

While that might prevent someone from using your computer and using login credentials for websites, it is no protection at all from someone accessing your files as all it takes is to mount your drive(s) on a different computer (unless you have taken additional measures to protect them).

Let me lend my voice once again to the complaints about loging-in. On my desktop I am required to log in at every session. A major pita. Net result: I log in to pnet once a week now instead of daily. Soon it will become monthly and then, not at all.

Since the site can monitor what I am doing at any point in time, it would also know when I was last active and hence there should be no need to use "logged in" as a measure for traffic. Besides, wouldn't it look better if the number of users logged in was actually larger than the between 20-70 that I usually see displayed?

<br><br>OT for sure:

 

While that might prevent someone from using your computer and using login credentials for websites, it is no protection at all from someone accessing your files as all it takes is to mount your drive(s) on a different computer (unless you have taken additional measures to protect them).

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I take it that someone who can access my files by mounting the hard drive in my Mac Mini does this after stealing it. Right? Don't they have to start up my Mac Mini to do this which of course requires a password? Or are you referring to folks doing this by getting past my firewall by way of the internet? Or are you saying they pull out the hard drive from my Mac Mini after stealing it and run it in Target Disc Mode? I think FileVault protects data on an internal hard drive and Firmware Password protects against mounting the entire computer in Target Disc Mode.

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But I'm not concerned about my data being stolen anyway once my Mac Mini is stolen. My password is just to discourage thieves since I have a sticker on the Mac Mini indicating a password is required for start up.

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As for logging in being a PITA Firefox finally recorded the PN password so all I have to do is one click log in. Of course it opens onto my portfolio where I just click on a PN forum bookmark in Firefox's toolbar. So two clicks to log in and open in PN main Forums page.

FileVault protects data

It does in that it encrypts your data and needs a password to decrypt them even if the drive is pulled out of the computer and mounted onto another one (which in case of a Mac might require some special connector too).

Finding this thread/issue confusing. I stay logged in all the time. Once I am logged in, I just go to a different site or close my browser when I am finished for the time being. When I come back, I am still logged in, and continue. My usual url landing place is 'my portfolio'. When I do have to log in is a) if I choose to log out by clicking the logout button, or b) if I clear my photo.net cookie. I use ccleaner on a regular basis, which clears my cookies, but have photo.net specified as one to leave alone.

 

Using IE11 on Windows 8.1.

Finding this thread/issue confusing.

I use either google chrome or firefox on a windows 10 Pro 64-bit machine and in either I am logged out after 24 hours (no matter if I have been active or not). Same log-outs on an ipad and iphone, usually using Google Chrome there. Not only is this annoying; since it doesn't account for activity, it may actually happen in the middle of writing a reply! At least to me it appears that clearing cookies isn't responsible for the log-outs as they do happen in the same time frame whether or not I close the browser (firefox is set to clear the cookies upon closing, chrome isn't (I use ccleaner for it) or not.

Dieter, I get exactly the same behaviour as you in IE as I do in chrome or firefox and my Android phone, after a month of this nonsense I am afraid I am giving up on this site.

I use either google chrome or firefox on a windows 10 Pro 64-bit machine and in either I am logged out after 24 hours (no matter if I have been active or not). Same log-outs on an ipad and iphone, usually using Google Chrome there. Not only is this annoying; since it doesn't account for activity, it may actually happen in the middle of writing a reply! At least to me it appears that clearing cookies isn't responsible for the log-outs as they do happen in the same time frame whether or not I close the browser (firefox is set to clear the cookies upon closing, chrome isn't (I use ccleaner for it) or not.

Shot in the dark: Might it relate to your connection to the internet? I only use a home pc connected by wire. If you are using a wifi connection might it be more subject to interruption?

Hard wire for the desktop, obviously Wi-Fi for the iphone and ipad. Also Glenn admitted in another thread that the 24-hour logout policy is deliberate and intentional. I am not the exception here, you are if you don't get logged out automatically. Clearing the cookies will log me out, but they don't get cleared by me unless I close the browser window (firefox) or run ccleaner, both of which I haven't. photo.net sets 12 cookies upon logging into the site, most of which are set to expire after 24 hours, and two are set to expire when the session ends. None appears to be permanent.

Frankly, having to sign in once a day (on each device) is an extremely minor annoyance. I click one button to get the signup screen and then click on another Button to sign in. I do NOT have to enter an ID or password.

 

Perhaps I feel this way because during 23 years in a government job. I had to enter my full ID and password every time my computer was idle for more than 10 minutes.

 

Personally, I found the paragragh break bug (now resolved) a million times more frustrating than the 24-hour logon rule, Some people may need to put their satisfaction priorities in order. Some glitches deserve an adrenaline rush and others (like the logo rule) don't even merit a yawn.

I'm getting more annoyed with the constant login requirement, especially because it does not go back to the page I was on when logging in. I'm on a few other forums and none have a short login, they perform very well. I agree with those who said this site was implemented far too soon, like the reply made about Navy shakedown cruise, which is actually done before the ship is put into service, so a shakedown cruise analogy does not work here.