Mac OS Sierra and Photoshop CC compatability.

<p>I am using a Desktop Mac with El Capitan and the new OS Sierra is available. Does anyone know any problems with Sierra and PS-CC?</p>

<p>Thanks in advance..</p>

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<p>Everything running fine on this end. </p>

<p>What is "this end"? Lol, yes, Sierra works fine for opening a browser and arguing on the internet...</p>

<p>Good question, C., as no one that I know that depends on their computer for business or serious hobby just updates Mac OS these days. Seems a few problems, best info is often in the comments. <br>

<strong><a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/photoshop-office-2016-macos-sierra-fixes-in-works/">Never install a new OS if you use your machine for productivity , always wait 2-3 major releases in, once it's stable.</a> <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/photoshop-office-2016-macos-sierra-fixes-in-works/">The gimmicks and perceived upgrades are not worth stability issues in the short term</a></strong></p>

<p><a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/photoshop">http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/photoshop-office-2016-macos-sierra-fixes-in-works/</a><br>

<a href="http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2016/09/photoshop-lightroom-compatibility">http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2016/09/photoshop-lightroom-compatibility</a>-with-macos-10-12-sierra.html</p>

<p><a href="https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/lightroom-and-mac-os-sierra">https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/lightroom-and-mac-os-sierra</a>.html</p>

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<p>What is "this end"?</p>

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<p>Every piece of software I've used since upgrading including many older products that have been discontinued. Need a list Eric? <br /> Photoshop dating back to CS5, Lightroom dating back to 5. All color management software you don't own. MS Office 2011. Transmit, ScreenFlow, iBank and Quicken....<br /> <strong>Everything</strong> running fine on this end.<br>

Back up your software fully <strong>before</strong> installing a new OS (and unlike Eric, don't get a virus and back that up too, infecting all your images and files).<br>

Update the OS and other software products if asked to do so. Run the products you use daily and confirm all is well as I did. <strong>Move on</strong>. Ignore the Eric generated FUD and just practice sound computing workflows. I have a full backup of the last OS and all app's and files on a firewire drive in a fire proof save. I can go back anytime I might need to (but after a few weeks of work, no reason to do so). </p>

<p>Thanks all for your thoughts. I believe I will wait until much later.</p>

<p>There's nothing earth shattering in Sierra. That's probably another reason why nothing seems to have broken as we've seen in the past with other OS updates. I do like the ability to set the menu's to black for soft proofing so I don't have to see the white of the GUI that Adobe can't control. Siri integration? It's kind of useful but not a game changer. ApplePay? Don't need it on my Mac. Here's some more info about what's new and what may or may not be useful to you:<br>

http://www.macworld.com/article/3083346/os-x/macos-sierra-faq-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-mac-operating-system.html</p>

<p>Oh and Eric, you really should <em>attempt</em> to read the OP's question before you start <strong>another</strong> of your rants:</p>

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<p><em>Does anyone know any problems with Sierra and PS-CC?</em></p>

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<p>Again, everything <strong>including</strong> of course, Photoshop CC runs Hunky-dory as I posted.</p>

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<p>Oh and Eric, you really should <em>attempt</em> to read the OP's question before you start <strong>another</strong> of your rants:</p>

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<p>Again, everything <strong>including</strong> of course, Photoshop CC runs Hunky-dory as I posted.</p>

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<p>Nope. It isn't Hunky-dory. Is your google broken? <br>

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<p>Nope. It isn't Hunky-dory. Is your google broken?</p>

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<p>Nope, <strong>it's running just fine</strong>; got a copy <strong>yourself</strong>? Or you don't and have <strong>no</strong> actual and direct experience, just google? Big, big difference Eric.<br>

“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” <br>

― <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6172.S_ren_Kierkegaard">Søren Kierkegaard</a></p>

 

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<p>So far everything I run, runs fine including PS CC, Lightroom, Outlook and all the lil utilities I sometimes use for stuff.</p>

<p>Indeed Barry, despite '<em>the Google</em>' and Eric's non personal and actual experiences with either the OS or perhaps Photoshop CC. I don't think there was very much changed in Sierra, and not a slew of updates to preexisting products after it appeared. Pretty benign upgrade thankfully. </p>

<p>I thought about the Sierra update, but the Macs I use won't be able to utilize Sierra to the fullest. After looking at the upgrades, it's not for me. I'm happy with El Capitan on my 2012 Mac Mini and 2011 Macbook Pro. Bottom line, look at the upgrades for the OS, and see if you really need them. I usually wait a couple of months myself before I upgrade, if I need it. </p>

<p>I have a number of mac ranging from an old Apple Xserve to the latest iMac 27. The Xserve is running 10.6.8 and can't be upgraded. I have CS5 and have now upgraded all of my available Macs to Sierra. I usually install on one and run it for a week or so before updating the others. I do have some bones to pick with Sierra, but none have to do with image processing. I also did not see a real improvement with Sierra - just a different look and feel.</p>

<p>I am happy to say that I have had no problems either.</p>

<p>No problems; <em>The Eric Google</em> is wrong not broken? ;-)</p>

<p>How do you carry on like this even after I post four links from page one of a Google Search result demonstrating that everything isn't "hunky dorey"? WFT does hunky dorey even mean? At least you're entertaining for us while we have our morning coffee, Andrew.<br /></p>

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Or you don't and have <strong>no</strong> actual and direct experience, just google? Big, big difference Eric.</p>

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Yes, most people would google and read what issues there may be before blindly installing a new OS on a machine that they depend on. With you going ahead and doing so on your cute little laptop Andrew, speaks volumes to people that actually do photography. Here's an idea, big shot. I'll grab some popcorn and observe while you come out from under this little rock called Photo.net and into the real world of Adobe's group on Facebook and tell these posters that everything is just fine.</p>

<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/pshopandlightroom/permalink/1307560929306717/?match=c2llcnJh</p>

<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/pshopandlightroom/permalink/1304478642948279/?match=c2llcnJh</p>

<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/pshopandlightroom/permalink/1303268239735986/?match=c2llcnJh</p>

<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/pshopandlightroom/permalink/1303112543084889/?match=c2llcnJh</p>

<p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/pshopandlightroom/permalink/1303091683086975/?match=c2llcnJh</p>

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<p>How do you carry on like this even after I post four links from page one of a Google Search result demonstrating that everything isn't "hunky dorey"?</p>

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<p>How do you carry on when multiple people <strong>with actual experience</strong> with Photoshop CC and Sierra, UNLIKE you Eric, post everything is working fine? That was what the OP asked and he got several answers, all in agreement, from those with actual working experience. Something you lack. Again...<br /> I'm sorry that reality and facts continue to ruin <strong>your</strong> life Eric. If indeed, ignorance is bliss, you must be a in a continual state of ecstasy!</p>

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<p>With you going ahead and doing so on your cute little laptop Andrew, speaks volumes to people that actually do photography</p>

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<p>The absurd is the last refuge of a pundit without an argument or any idea of what he's talking about. </p>

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<p>With you going ahead and doing so on your cute little laptop Andrew, speaks volumes to people that actually do photography.</p>

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<p>Poor, sad little Eric. He'd like the members here to believe that the size of one's computer somehow <strong>compensates</strong> for their knowledge and abilities. He probably doesn't want others to know he too, by his own admission, owns and has recommended a MacBook Pro laptop as I'm using. He probably thinks that by showing himself in his SIG/bio page here, holding a Hasselblad, that camera makes him a photographer. <br /> As for '<em>doing</em>' photography, where is Eric's client list? Or his actual experience with photography and digtial imaging? He'd like us to believe that instead of actual experience with Photoshop CC (does he even own/subscribe to it?) or <em>Sierra</em>, he knows the facts by using <em>Google</em>. Despite numerous posts, mine the one he <strong>needs</strong> to attack, that indicates from <strong>actual experience</strong> that there's no issues. Who to believe, the person with zero experience and chops or those with actual experience and chops? <br /> As to people that actually '<em>do photography</em>', and further have some experience with digital imaging, a series of question to Eric:</p>

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<li>Did you graduate with a degee (with honors) in photography from one of the best schools in the country?</li>

<li>Did you get hand picked to shoot the Olympic Summer games and have access that only 50 other photographers did?</li>

<li>Did you shoot professionally for clients like Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Disney, Forbes, GTE, Smart & Final to name a few?</li>

<li>Were you on the board of the APA/LA or any such photography board?</li>

<li>Did you ever run a <em>'service bureau</em>' making drum scans and output to film recorders for high end clients?</li>

<li>Did you write a book on color management?</li>

<li>Did you write dozens upon dozens of articles about color management for multiple publications?</li>

<li>Did you write dozens upon dozens of reviews of digital imaging hardware and software for multiple publications?</li>

<li>Have you published dozens of video's on the topic of color management and digital imaging?</li>

<li>Were you the tech editor of two photography publications?</li>

<li>Were you paid and sent all over the world to teach and lectrue at seminars about about color management and digital imaging?</li>

<li>Were you paid and sent all over the world to work with fortune 500 (some fortune 5 companies) or the US Government, on their color management and digital imaging workflows and issues?</li>

<li>Were you paid and sent all over the world to work with some of the largest color management companies and printing companies on their hardware and software products?</li>

<li>Were you a beta or alpha site for Adobe dating back to 1996, let alone many dozens of other companies making hardware and software for the imaging industry?</li>

<li>Did you get paid to speak on the subject of color management and imaging at PMA, DIMA, Photoshop World, PhotoPlus Expo, Thunder Lizards, Seybold?</li>

<li>Did you ever get paid to teach color management or imaging at workshops in Santa Fe, Vancouver, Aspen, Mendocino, Sydney?</li>

<li>Did you ever make your living as a color management consultant? Or evey a professional advertising photographer?</li>

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<p>Do you look foolish arguing with someone who can answer <strong>yes</strong> to all the questions above? I'll let other's decide. I think you do! <br /> Shoud you send less time arguing with someone who knows vastly more about the subject of imaging and hone your photographic skills instead? Absolutely yes, you should! Enough said Eric, enough compensating for your lack of chops by bragging about the size of your computer and camera. We've got enough of this silliness in the US election, no need to go there bud! <br /> Time to move on Eric, the OP got correct, factual answers to his questions, from those of us <strong>actually using</strong> the products he asked about.</p>

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<p>WFT does hunky dorey even mean?</p>

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<p>The <strong>exact</strong> text I used, that <strong>you</strong> again just mangled is <em>hunky-dory</em> and you might try using your beloved Goole to answer that question. Heck, you probably need some assistance there so:<br /> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hunky–dory</p>

<p>Honestly, not to add any fuel to the fire, and even though I do agree with Andrew in regards to Sierra working fine and his technical knowledge, etc. And I do have to grin a little when you two lads go at it, but I just have to say for the record, I've known Eric's photography for years now, and he happens to be a very very good photographer and a working professional for years. Likewise for technical matters relating to digital photography, calibration, etc. Andrew really does know his stuff, really none better here on photo net for a deep understanding of digital color and how to understand the theory behind it and how the technology actually operates. So Ok, I'll fade out now:)</p>

<p>macOS Sierra on three machines. Zero problems. Not surprised by all the FUD up above. Sure is getting old. What, at least three years now? Probably more.</p>

<p>Please make sure that there are the appropriate drivers for your scanners/printers/etc. Every time Apple updates an OS, Canon drivers become a problem and Apple always blames Canon. </p>

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<p>Please make sure that there are the appropriate drivers for your scanners/printers/etc. Every time Apple updates an OS, Canon drivers become a problem and Apple always blames Canon.</p>

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<p>Indeed and to add further, always download these drivers from the manufacturers sites, NOT through an Apple update. This is especially important for Epson printer drivers. Go to the US site and download the latest drivers if necessary: <br>

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/SupportIndex.jsp</p>

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<p>And I do have to grin a little when you two lads go at it, but I just have to say for the record, I've known Eric's photography for years now, and he happens to be a very very good photographer and a working professional for years. </p>

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Cheers Barry, thanks. It's all in good fun. Grinning is all we can do here with this deimatic behaviour and incendiary rhetoric. It's like Emerson, Lake and Palmer vs The Sex Pistols. <br>

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<p>Andrew really does know his stuff, really none better here on photo net for a deep understanding of digital color and how to understand the theory behind it and how the technology actually operates. </p>

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And that's what he should stick too. My mechanic knows everything about fuel injection, but he can't friggin drive if his life depended on it...at least he's honest about it.<br>

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<p>Time to move on Eric, the OP got correct, factual answers to his questions, from those of us <strong>actually using</strong> the products he asked about.</p>

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Haha, and then Andrew said, haha...did you even type that? Scroll up, you you must missed it, the op returned taking my advice. This is to be expected when credible info is posted along with links to verify a statement. Do you have any links that can back-up your "factual answers"?<br>

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<p>He'd like the members here to believe that the size of one's computer somehow <strong>compensates</strong> for their knowledge and abilities. </p>

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How about catalog? My catalog is bigger than your catalog...my dad can beat up your dad. Post a pic, lets see your work-space, your digital darkroom, Andrew.<br>

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<p>Post a pic, lets see your work-space, your digital darkroom, Andrew.</p>

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<p>Just try using the Google Eric. Your go to source for all answers. <br>

Don't let your lack of chops get you down bud. There's always time for you to attempt self improvement at your young age. </p>

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<p>Do you have any links that can back-up your "factual answers"?</p>

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<p>No need for other links Eric, <strong>multiple</strong> posters <strong>here</strong> have stated the facts about Sierra and PS-CC, two products you have zero experience with. No issues. <br /> I don’t know if you are purposely trying not to understand this, or if you are really struggling with it. I suspect a bit of both. It's par for the course for someone providing FUD without a lick of experience on the subject. Sad. But rather consistent! </p>