Canon 5Ds 50 MG

<p>The 5Ds has a new 1.6 crop mode so you can use it just like a 20-megapixel 7D-style camera. I don't see why having a pair of 6D and 7D2 would be better, except to have a spare camera to hand.</p>

<p>I'm wondering how it will compare with a regular Medium format camera, such as a Hassy or a Pentax 645Z, which have the equivalent of 50 MG pixels ?</p>

<p>improve the dynamic range if possible...more megapixels at astronomical prices appears like overkill unless you enjoy cropping maniacally or plan on making wall sized prints...what's the advantage of these 100-200 mp cameras of the future...aren't we just feeding the frenzy</p>

<p>"I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"<br>

-Howard Beale</p>

 

<p>Ed, one advantage to having a 6D 7DII combo over using the 5Ds in 1.6x mode is that the 7DII shoots 10fps where the 5Ds is 5fps. A huge advantage for sports, birds and such. Not sure how good the AF is on the 5Ds, but I'll bet the 7DII is faster.</p>

<p>Very specialized camera, Canon had to do it just to keep some pro-base from defecting to Nikon.<br>

<br />For the rest of us 5D3 or 6D more then enough.</p>

 

<p>I'm surprised that there is not more awareness of the general principle that image quality is always a combination of lens quality and sensor quality.</p>

<p>Whatever lens you use, a 50mp image down-sampled to the same size as a 5D3 image which has been shot using the same lens, will always appear noticeably sharper, unless the lens used is really bad.</p>

<p>Increasing pixel count will effectively upgrade all the Canon lenses one already owns, especially when the increase is so significant as 20mp (or 22mp) to 50mp.</p>

<p>Planning to buy one? No. Considering the possibility? Yes.</p>

<p>I like the handling of the 5D series. The 5DII was one of my favorite cameras ever. I have some concerns about the 5DS®, but until production models are tested, I don't know how serious these issues will be.</p>

<p>For instance, Canon's shadow noise is problematic when compared with the clean DR of the competition. More resolution equals more detail, but if you blow the prints up, the noise becomes even more noticeable. </p>

<p>Also, for a while I shot the 7D side by side with the 5DII. The 7D images were always softer even though the MP was nearly equivalent. I suspect that the small pixel pitch puts more strain on lenses. So, I'm not sure how much extra detail the 5DS will really deliver. I'm sure that it will beat the 5DIII, but will it exceed the D810 that I'm using currently?</p>

<p>A thought on file size:</p>

 

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<p>Working with big files can get tedious.</p>

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This will vary widely depending on your workflow. My 2009 iMac processes 36.3 MP Nikon files just fine in Lightroom. Other workflows might be less forgiving.</p>

 

<p>I would love to have one of these. I have viewed some impressive studio shots with this camera at 100% resolution. I am using a 6D so it would be a significant jump for me.</p>

<p>I wonder, for me, if working with files this size will become cumbersome for my 1 year old Windows 8.1 computer. I have two solid state drives on my computer which fill quickly after a few shoots with my 6D. Moving the files to external drives even with USB 3 is still slow, mainly due to the write speeds of my external USB 3 Drives. When moving 32 gigs from my internal solid state drives to external it takes way to long for me. My computer is newer, a fast gaming ASUS, 16 gigs of RAM, i7 processor that can be overclocked to to over 3 GHz and times it still bogs down on some tasks. I went with a gaming computer because I want fast file handling, video and photo editing.</p>

<p>I probably don't need all that resolution now, I know this, <strong>but I love detail</strong> and enjoy viewing that detail. I like having the resolution that allows me to see something in a photo that I can crop and still use because it has enough resolution. Sure ideally would be to shoot it right the first time, but there are times I can't or I see something in a photo in post that suddenly pops out to me.</p>

<p>I know I will eventually have a camera with this resolution. Do I need it now? No. Do I want it? Yes. Will I buy it tomorrow, no, but it is only a matter of time and finances until I have one.</p>

<p>Occasionally I have printed poster size photos. I think the resolution will be useful for big prints and of potential value to some clients. It could also be great for the wild life photographer too, getting more detail, things that were just out of reach of your zoom to be impressive when cropped may now have very usable detail.</p>

<p>So many possibilities open with this higher resolution. I do want it.</p>

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<p><em>This will vary widely depending on your workflow. My 2009 iMac processes 36.3 MP Nikon files just fine in Lightroom. Other workflows might be less forgiving.</em></p>

<p>I think it depends on what you're doing and how many images you have to process, and what one considers "fine" and what "tedious". I shoot about one thousand images per week, maybe a bit more, and I want the images edited within a week. So I would prefer the editing software to be instantaneous in every operation. If you import, say 1000-2000 images into a Lightroom catalog, how long does the import take? As you browse quickly from one image to the next, how long does it take on your system for the high resolution image to be displayed in develop module with all the adjustments applied (assuming the catalog has 1000-2000 36MP raw images)? What if you need to edit all the files in Nik or PS CC; transferring through 16-bit TIFF written on the disk into one of these software takes a moment, doesn't it? Adding some layers in PS increases the file size further. Finally the images need to be backed up over the network, how long does it take? Personally I have so many images that I need to access them sometimes from the NAS drives and again if I have to wait at any time longer than about 1 second, I consider it too slow. I can't get that kind of response time with any computer hardware that I can afford today, even after almost three years after the D800 came to the market. I'm surprised that a 2009 iMac would be that much faster.</p>

<p>"<em>It (5Ds) could also be great for the wild life photographer too, getting more detail, things that were just out of reach of your zoom to be impressive when cropped may now have very usable detail</em>."<br>

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Then you could use a 7D Mkii or a 70D or even a 6Ti/s. All of them will have as much or more detail in an image than the 5Ds cropped to APS-C size or smaller. The 5Ds wouldstill "win" at larger crops though.</p>

<p>Don't waste your money on this camera wait for the 5Ds MKII 100mp version it will be announced very soon.</p>