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chris_autio

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<p>Very excited about my new purchase of the 810. BUT unable to open RAW files in PS PHOTOSHOP. So I upgraded my mac to 10.9.5 Maverick (didn't want to go all the way to Yosemite because of problems I might encounter with Final Cut 5 program). Still couldn't open NEF files. Downloaded new Camera Raw for PS 8.6. No luck. Had to download Adobe DNG software. From this program I can upload the whole "folder" of what is on my Extreme disc (but not specific images). I can now access the DNG images for Camera Raw, but it is clunky and tends to freeze PS. Not that I have enough working memory allocated (12 Gb). Any solutions to extracting single images? How do I opt out of DNG to just Camera Raw?</p>
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<p>Question , is "PS PHOTOSHOP"a different package from Adobe Photoshop ? <br>

I find several references on the web to "PS PhotoShop 8" , and if this is not the same as Adobes Photoshop, then your application is just not updated yet to support your D810 NEF's i gues<br>

If so then you will have to rely on euther VIEW NX2 or Capture NX-D which are both to be downloaded from Nikon for free...</p>

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<p>Thanks everyone. I am trying the ViewNX2 software that came with the camera. I find it kind of clunky, but that is probably because I am on the bottom of the bell curve of learning something new. If I update my PS CS5 Extended 12.0 to CS6 then I may find that Adobe Camera Raw 8.7.1 will work, hopefully. Thanks, George. A fussy route is using the DNG software to utilize my current ACR, but it freezes Photoshop if I open more than one photo. C.P.M., I wrote PS PHOTOSHOP only because of my abhorrance of software acronyms that seem to create even more of a struggle than is necessary (can someone clue me in to what Andrew Garrard means by DxO?)</p>
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<p>View NX's latest version crashes frequently on my computer but the previous version works fine. NX-D's 1.0 version was ridden with bugs and other issues but the latest 1.10 seems to work ok on my computer. I like to use Nikon raw converters myself although I use Adobe software for retouching, colour adjustments, sharpening, and printing. One reason is that I prefer the way the Nikon converters handle noise towards high ISOs, and another is that they obey instructions set in the camera as to how the raw conversion should be made (picture control settings). Today I can even set the filtering used for monochrome images in camera, and to further tweak the images without having to start from scratch in Adobe raw converter, with Nikon's converter I can just start from where I left off in the camera settings and continue tweaking the image from there. This saves me time. I haven't really figured out a way to get LR's black and white conversion settings to work for me. There are black and white conversion with filter presets in LR but they seem to adjust white balance which I want to control separately.</p>

<p>Of Adobe's converters I can live with ACR more easily than the limited options available within the Lightroom interface (even if it uses some of the same code). Other things that I don't like about Lightroom include sharpening and noise reduction which are, to my perception not very sophisticated (compared to Photoshop CC which has excellent sharpening options). Finally LR only utilizes one core on my 8-core CPU. Photoshop CC by contrast is quite sophisticated software and I don't mind paying the monthly fee for CC given the level of quality of the software. However I can see how you'd want to stick with the perpetual license of your older version of Photoshop. You might consider the reduced price of the Photoshop CC + Lightroom for photographers package; this way you'd get both kept up to date with a more modest monthly fee than the full CC subscription. LR, while I don't like its image editing options much, is great for batch processing and batch printing. Also it makes it very easy to apply settings across selected images. For images up to about ISO 1000 I think the image quality of NEF conversions from LR is quite good, but at the highest ISO settings I haven't been able to find settings which I'd be pleased with. I miss the control points of Nikon's Capture NX2; they made certain adjustments very easy to do with excellent results. However that software doesn't directly support D810 (without hacking the files). Perhaps it is best to move on to what software is supported over the long term. </p>

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<p>Oops - sorry, Chris, I forgot to check back on this thread. By "DxO" I meant "<a href="http://www.dxo.com/">www.dxo.com</a>" - specifically their OpticsPro software (the current version being 10). It's a raw converter, essentially like Adobe Camera Raw. (They also do "film effects" packages and stuff.) They have a big database of how lenses behave on various cameras (which they have also turned into dxomark.com as a way of numerically reviewing lenses and camera sensors) and use it to apply corrections, in the apparently effective belief that lens variations don't make as much difference as tuning for the lens design. Among other options, they have some decent conventional noise reduction, and you can turn on PRIME noise reduction, which is more effective but extremely slow. (It's also the first thing that I've met which will kill the battery in my MacBook in half an hour of editing.)<br />

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Like Adobe Camera Raw, you can do basic cropping, white balance adjustments, exposure changes, etc. If you actually want to edit the image, you probably still want to open it in Photoshop - but you can export from OpticsPro as a 16-bit TIFF (it's a bit clunky, but other than leaving a big file around, it works) and have it automatically open in Photoshop. At least, that's the work flow I'm currently using, unless I'm confident in the lens quality, know I'm at low ISO and don't need noise reduction, and I know I'll be messing about with the image anyway. In which case, I just open things directly in Photoshop. DxO will save direct to a JPEG if you don't want to do any further editing, and I've been known to do that as well.<br />

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Which, of course, seems not to be working for you. I hope you can fix it. Otherwise, OpticsPro isn't especially cheap (except compared with Photoshop), especially the posh version that works with the D810, but at least you can try it free for a month and decide whether it's worthwhile for you. And convert your back-log of images...<br />

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I hope that helps, or at least proves to be interesting!</p>

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