vrankin Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 <p>Brightness comes under Push-Pull Processing (by 1/3 stops). Contrast comes under two controls: Highlight Tone and Shadow Tone (from soft to hard).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeoday Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 <p>I have been very happy with the in-camera jpeg processing of my new X10.</p> <p>I’ve been using the camera mostly in the reduced 6Mpixel 400% dynamic range mode in which effectively half the 12Mpixels are exposed differently than the other half and then they are combined to form a 6Mpixel image with more detail in the highlights and shadows without increasing noise. </p> <p>I’ve been very pleased with the in-camera b&w jpegs I’ve been getting. Other than a levels adjustment to tweak the mid-tones and final sharpening (I shoot with the minimum in-camera sharpening setting) I’ve felt no need to do anything else to the images.</p> <p>So as a b&w camera at least, I can fully recommend the in-camera jpeg processing of the X10.</p> <p>Oh, and by the way, I understand that the orb issue has been fixed with new hardware as of serial number 22m and upwards. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann_overland Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 <p>Howard, there seem to be a lack of an in-camera midtone contrast setting then, for the jpeg outcome.</p> <p>Didn't they swap both the sensor and the lens, Mike?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeoday Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 <p>Ann, I understand that when retrofitting returned cameras they did in fact replace the sensor and lens as a unit. I would guess that for new manufactured items (serial numbers 22m and latter) they just substituted the necessary modified components within the unit.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_baxter Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 <p>You can review images without removing the lens cap and twisting the lens to "on".</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 <p>It's hard to use shots like that as JPG processor comparisons, particularly when the lenses are set to set different apertures and the processing settings are so different. "Velvia" mode on a Fuji is not a good mode for showing dynamic range because the contrast is so strong, while the Nikon looks like was set for moderate contrast.</p> <p>BTW, Ann, FWIW, with both those cameras set to ISO 200, the D7000 tests at about 2.5 stops more DR. This isn't a hugely meaningful thing, but it does relate to shadow detail in scenes with strong sunlight. It's not really fair or instructive to compare those two cameras in sensor measurements like that, because the D7000 has a sensor that's more than 6x the size of the X10's and it's a different type of camera entirely.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann_overland Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 <p>Andy, which software did they use in that test?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 <p>I was looking at the graphs on DXOmark. In general, it holds true that if comparing current model cameras with significantly different sensor sizes, the larger sensor is better in a number of measurements, but that's not a terribly meaningful way to compare when the cameras are in very different classes.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szrimaging Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 <p>"Current model cameras", sorry, I know both are in the current lineup, but neither are the latest/greatest. And I agree, my testing methods were VERY flawed, I was just trying to get something that was a rough idea, shot in the real world, not the final be all like a DxOMark test. <br> <br /><br />My final opinion on the matter is, the X10 is impressive for what it is, but by no means a DSLR competitor. That said, I have shot the DSLR maybe once in the last few weeks, and the X10 plenty of times. Size, convience, and feel way heavily in there for me, and thus the X10 meets all of those very well.</p> <p>That said, I can't wait to see Fuji turn out an X-Pro2. If the system has just the right lenses by then (decent macro, good zooms in both short and long, and a few nice primes), I'm probably dumping Nikon....</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 <p>Oh, yeah, I agree that it's a really good compact. I don't like doing comparisons between cameras of different classes because the expectations (which drive design and technical decisions) are different - so a DSLR is going to have technical advantages while a compact camera is going to be easier to take with you.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann_overland Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 <blockquote> <p>And I agree, my testing methods were VERY flawed, I was just trying to get something that was a rough idea, shot in the real world, not the final be all like a DxOMark test.</p> </blockquote> <p>Zach, most people would understand that. It was nice to see the test anyway. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_van_den_boorn1 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 <p>Jack, clicking and holding the green play button for about 2 seconds switches on the camera in playback mode. No need to turn the lens.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_van_den_boorn1 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 <p>Steve, here are two pictures shot with my X10, both as is:</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_van_den_boorn1 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 <p>My daughter:</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_van_den_boorn1 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 <p>Flowers:</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann_overland Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 <p>I just went to the DxOMark web site to look at the tests. I have never ever in all my years on the Internet visited a website that slaps you in the face with a huge ad every time you click on a link there. The ad blocks the entire web page and shows for ten seconds each and every time you click on a link. I, for one, would <em>never</em> buy a product from anyone that is doing that kind of advertising. What are they thinking with, <em>intentionally annoying potential customers</em> like that?!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szrimaging Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 <p>I see that on a lot of magazine's websites also.<br /><br />That said, I only get it when I first visit the site. Wonder why it's different for you. Are you blocking cookies?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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