bruce_erickson1 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 <p>Can someone explain why/how the "old" sumicron 50 f/2 non-apo lens is so much inferior to the new apo/ asph version? Under what circumstances does the apo/asph really make a big difference? $2200. (for old) vs. $7200 (for new) seems to imply a big deal. (Btw, I very much like my old summicron f/2 50mm and may get another for my other camera.)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Schaefer Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 <p>The "<em>world's best 50mm lens</em>" (Erwin Puts) just got a lot better through "<em>optical design that achieves previously unattainable values in all technical performance characteristics</em>" (quote from Leica's website). Check the MTF curves and you will see the superiority of the Apo-Summicron 50/2 ASPH over the lowly non-APO, non-ASPH version.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baisao Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 <p>What difference will be seen on the print?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCL Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 <p>Typically apochromatic lenses focus three colors (wavelengths) of light at a given plane instead of two (non-achromatic). The effects usually include a reduction of color fringing in high contrast situations. Sometimes there is also a reduction of spherical aberation due to the inclusion of an additional color over non aprchromatic lenses as well. This may or may not be noticeable in prints, depending on a variety of factors, including subject lighting, sharpness of edges in high contrast situations, and color accuracy.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 <p>Are you using a tripod with stationary subjects? No? May not notice the difference. But you might -- it's apparently a lot sharper in the corners.<br> Cost-no-object lens designs result in very expensive products. The floating element requires an extra helical. The glasses are exotic. Etc.<br> Also, German workers are really really really expensive.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 <p>The app lenses are over clinically sharp and lack soul. Send me one immediately and I'll show you.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon_dragon Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 The only advantage I can think of might be with very high resolution sensors, but how many would pay so much for such a small advantage? Maybe if you are doing billboards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 <p>As far as I know this the only true apo 50mm available. Logic says it's not worth it. For those with deep pockets, and those wanting a tremendous jolt of ownership pride only need apply.</p> Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 <p ><a name="00aaS5"></a><a href="../photodb/user?user_id=23754">Robin Smith</a> <a href="../member-status-icons"><img title="Subscriber" src="../v3graphics/member-status-icons/sub10plus.gif" alt="" /><img title="Frequent poster" src="../v3graphics/member-status-icons/1roll.gif" alt="" /></a>, Jul 07, 2012; 12:45 p.m.</p> <p>As far as I know this the only true apo 50mm available. Logic says it's not worth it. For those with deep pockets, and those wanting a tremendous jolt of ownership pride only need apply.</p> <p>Wasn't there one for the Alpa, several years ago?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Schaefer Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 <p>Alpa Kern 50mm f/1.8 and f/1.9 Switar - read about them here: http://www.photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/003wWa</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_angel Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 <p>I`d not surprised if it is a 10-20% performance increment, in a 300-400% price increment. It is so common, but this time they have bet the lens in one card. The market will tell if they can do it again.<br> I`d like to test it by myself. Two same printed pics, one with the new, one with the older. This time, more than ever, the usual talk became worthless to me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjscharp Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 And remember, apochromatic lenses are a lot less useful if you only shoot B&W :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 <blockquote> <p>only shoot B&W :-)</p> </blockquote> <p>Not true, as the light a lens is focussing is not monochromatic.</p> Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjscharp Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Like I said, <em>less useful</em>. With a non-apo lens, you might get a bit of sharpness loss, but the color shift you might see with color photographs won't be visible (obviously). And if you're using colored filters, all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc_b Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 <p>Used 1.4/50As may become more affordable again... Love Leica for that effect alone!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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