fotografz Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 As Picasso said " a picture kept in the closet, might as well be kept in the head". Show me HCBs published works with the "battery powered" P&S AZ. He may have been serious, but you don't know it, nor does anyone else ... except him, and he ain't telling ; -) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 The claim was that he didn't use such a camera. He did. Then you made the claim he wasn't serious with those photos. You made the claim, back it up. Stop being ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Point taken AZ. But let's cut to the chase. Your real agenda is to somehow further the notion that the gear doesn't matter, it's the photographer that matters. Which I don't disagree with, except when it becomes an evangelistic mantra in answer to every supposition of preference on a site dedicated to that preference. IMO, your first post was on the money... "what does this have to do with Leica photography?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 My "agenda" here is to point out fallacies and suppositions. As for my first post, you are among those who are fooled by someone using my moniker, and inapppropriately attributing to me what he wrote; if you pay attention you can see that he is not a paying member while I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Name theft understood AZ. Will keep an eye out for that in future. ....My "agenda" here is to point out fallacies and suppositions.... IMO, you can protest your pure intentions all day long, but the sum total is one of an intellectual cop, with a self-important agenda, policing some obscure outpost of the internet for God knows what reason. A site mostly peopled by those with a preference defined by the site itself, who are here to share their preferences. Not a hard concept to grasp. If you are such a paragon of photographic knowledge, why are you squandering it here? Why not do something of consequence, rather than knuckle rapping enthusiastic supporters of a tiny brand of camera on a site dedicated to that little camera? Every time someone expresses their enjoyment or preference, the evangelistic elite "Rodney King" them into intellectual submission ... when it is all actually subjective emotional preference that's being expressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 with a self-important agenda, policing some obscure outpost of the internet for God knows what reason It's a tough and lonely job for Z. But, hey, somebody has got to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Do you believe in re-incarnation Mark? It's based on more than supposition. Perhaps Z was a Roman Soldier guarding some lonely outpost at the edge of the Empire. Somewhere like Hadrian's wall. Can't you visualise him standing firm as he stares across the barren moors: like smoke drifting across the horizon came the hordes. " Z, we want you to hold the fort while we bugger off....oops! We mean save the women and children". It was a tough and lonely life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudia__ Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 i don't believe i ever made the "claim" that HCB never used a battery powered camera. i think Z is wrong on that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Drinking and typing is a lonely job for Allen, but someone's got to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 quiche claimed that HCB never lost a decisive moment because his battery died. What the f%uck is she, psychic? No, the obvious inference is that he never used a battery -- meaning she's wrong. Or if she does think thaty she's psychic she should use her alleged yet dubious talents somewhere else for the betterment of mankind. Nice attampt at a tapdance away from your assertion, but you need a few more lessons to make it seamless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 "Here" means this thread, Marc, nothing more, despite your reading between the lines. As for cop-outs, yours is quite amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudia__ Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Z is wrong Z is wrong Z is wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmo Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 <i>"Can't you visualise him standing....a tough and lonely life."</i> <p> Allen, priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socke Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 May I sum it up like this:<br> <br> <br> <li>The Leica M System is the be all end all of cameras.</li> <li>HCB was the only photographer worth talking about</li> <li>The moon pictures are the best proof that nobody ever was on the moon as every sentinent beeing would have sent HCB with his Leica for a job important as that one instead of an airforce officer with a Hassy</li> <br> <img src="http://www.hett.org/smileys/42.gif" alt="tomatoes"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 quiche, my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Quite right, Volker -- forget the people who don't need or want or use Leicas, and especially ignore or disparage or belittle those who once used Leicas but chose another piece of gear. They are clearly the deluded ones, ja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudia__ Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 sorry Z i forgot you are infallible. also a poor sport but hey...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Claidia, why are you ignoring the claim you made about HCB? Or are you retracting it? Or is this how you think you're being a good sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudia__ Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 i didn't make the claim you claimed i made. simple. and good sports such as moi overlook it when people mangle their name ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 What claim to yout think you made, Clausia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudia__ Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 have another cupa java. you can have the last word since you seem so needy. ciao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrani Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Z, you're really losing it, why not give it a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Fine, Caldia, you never made any claims you needed to try to forget you made. Kneel and Bob, thanks too for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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