vic_smith2

<p>i want to re-emphasize what I said in OP:</p> <p>the clean unwatermarked images would have been provided to her FOR FREE, if she shared watermarked images all over her social media</p> <p>that is what she balked at</p> <p>I do appreciate the advice and suggestions, but I just want to know if I choose not to go forward and process the images and work with her, am I in the wrong?</p> <p>she broke a verbal agreement, so I feel justified in not moving forward</p> <p>I just want to know if I owe her the photos even though she changed her demands</p> <p>thanks</p>

<p>No. I would not have done it for zero credit or financial compensation</p>

<p>It definitely would be a shame. I understand she doesn't want TFP, but she's also not willing to compensate financially and I don't want to devalue my work.</p>

<p>Hi Michael,<br> her reason is that she has been looking at other fashion designer websites, and sees that none of them have watermarks (her reasoning is likely flawed. They are established and likely paid to license the clean images, which she doesn't want to do)</p> <p>I have offered a more discreet watermark but she is dead set on a professional look.</p>

<p>Hi Craig, thanks for the perspective.</p> <p>Well she is starting a business and that's what the photos would be used for. So there is potential for monetizing on her behalf down the road, and creating a brand using my photos.<br> So while there was no talk of financial compensation for me, there was some sort of cross-promotion involved, which is now off the table.</p>

<p>Thanks Ellis, good advice<br> Rick the model release and terms of usage had yet to be signed. The model reneged on the verbal agreement prior to signing and prior to file delivery.</p> <p>At this point I choose not to proceed.</p> <p>And again, at this point i do not intend to use them at all. The model release and terms of use were forthcoming but no longer.</p>

<p>Hi everyone<br> new to the forum, I hope someone can help. Here is the situation</p> <p>I did a shoot for a friend/model with a verbal agreement that stated the terms of use. clean images for her website, with text credit and/or byline on the page. For social media usage, I provide her with watermarked images. No financial payment was requested. The watermark/exposure was what i was to receive.</p> <p>After the shoot, but <strong>before</strong> delivery she changed her mind and said she didnt want to use any watermarked images, at all.<br> I'm not a fan of just credit on social media as it can easily be deleted or removed when retweeted, pinned or shared. This is all I asked for in return as non-financial payment or trade.<br> I am not happy with her change of heart. No model release was signed.</p> <p>Am I obligated to deliver any photos to her? I understand that I may not use them myself and I'm ok with that. i do not want her de-valuing my time and work and I am content deleting the shoot.</p> <p>What are my rights/obligations?</p> <p>thank you</p>