jaime_duarte

<p>They are going for 1800€ used here.<br> I have a 1000€ camera so i'd be essentially doubling my camera investment.</p> <p>A used 7DII, when they start popping up, might actually be my best bet, I lose some ISO performance but gain everywhere else.</p>

<p>The 5D mkIII is a pretty big investment. I can't make it at this point.</p>

<p>Hello guys,<br /> First of all sorry for the wall of text.<br /> Enthusiast here. Have been photographing for about 3 years.<br /> I have a full time IT job to pay the bills and have had some paying gigs on the weekend as a photographer.</p> <p>I began shooting Nikon, first with a d3100 then a d7000 but the lack of affordable f/4 lenses (17-40, 24-105, 70-200) made me switch to canon. In hindsight, that might not have been very smart in the long run since I outgrew the f4 lenses quickly and am now in the f2.8 range)<br> <br /> I sold all my nikon gear and bought a used 5D (the original) for 350€. The sensor was beautiful but ergonomics, usability, lcd screen were very limited vs my previous D7000.<br> <br /> So after a short while i sold the 5D I got a used 6D for 1000€ was a big step up, pretty much brand new and still in warranty. (at the time of writting this post it is still under warranty).<br> <br /> I was shooting mostly portraits by then and I loved the camera, I still do. <br /> I was a competitive swimmer for 15 years and as such I had the oportunity to shoot a swimming event a couple of weeks ago. they liked it and we are making it a regular thing.<br> <br /> The high ISO performance was phenomenal. I have perfectly usable 12800 shots.<br /> As you may guess swimming pools are dark as caves and you need to freeze the action very crisply because the water blurs everything on swimmers faces. I could never go below 1600 by day (daylight shinning through large windows) and by night I was mostly on 3200/6400 territory.<br /> In this regard the camera is fine. Could not ask for better honestly.<br> <br /> The bad news is the staple swimming photo is the front photo of a butterfly swimmer. With the swimmer coming towards the camera. He hides his face in the water and emerges quickly to inhale, going back down again.<br /> So you have a split second to focus as soon as he emerges or you can try to predict focusing on the water in front of him, where he is going to emerge. All in all, its very tricky business with the 6D slow FPS and famously bad focusing system.</p> <p>Since it's got only 1 cross type focus sensor I kept to the middle sensor and just rolled with it.<br /> Now, be aware I got a lot of keepers, but a lot of garbage as well.</p> <p>Long story short I want a better focusing system and faster burst.</p> <p>So this is where I need your help. I know the cameras out there: I know the models and it's specs. But I'm not sure what to do. On one hand I really like my 6D and I am not a pro photographer. On the other hand I see 350€ cameras like the 1D mkII that can shoot 8.5fps with, what I think, is a better AF system. But unfortunately the ISO is very limited in comparrison to my ridiculous 6D standards.<br> <br /> The 1D mark IV is above my price range with used prices around 1400€.<br> <br /> The 1D mark III is a camera I could switch my 6D with. Still only 6400 max ISO. But I can make that work. Still the 6D 6400 is probably cleaner than the 1DIII 1600. They go for about 800€ used.<br> <br /> The 7D. The 7D is at a weird place for me right now in terms of price, I can probably get one for 550-600€ but thats kind of steep as a second camera and a considerable donwgrade, In my opinion, if I make the switch and sell the 6D.</p> <p>And then the 1D mark II. I could get it as a second camera but it won't go over 3200 ISO and I KNOW I sometimes need to go over that. Plus, since i'd be in 1600/3200 all the time, i would get more keepers, granted, but overall much inferior quality shots than with my 6D. </p> <p>This 1DII option is what i'm most inclined to do but the very low demand for it worries me that I won't be able to sell it back if I'm not happy with it.</p> <p>The smaller sensor on any of theses cameras is actually a plus since Im shooting a 70-200 2.8 and I find myself on the longer end of the lens more often than not.</p> <p>What do you guys think? Should I buck up and make my 6D work or get a new toy for this endeavour and others that might come along? What would you do?</p> <p>Thanks in advance, sorry if my english isn't that great, I tried my best.</p>

<p>First of all, thanks a lot by the depth each of you put into your responses. I really appreciate it.<br> Unfortunately however, by the time I made a decision and left the house to meet the seller there were no answers and I thought the thread would go forgotten. My bad.<br> I went with the 6D! It seems that most of you would have me go 6D so I feel very assured on top of being thoroughly impressed with the camera.<br> My 5D is a POS in comparison, no joke! Given the fact that I got 400€ for my 5D and got the 6D for 1000€ is basically a bargain but it might just be my gear lust speaking.<br> To Mr William W, thanks for your answer, I did know that full frame allowed a shallower dof but I wasn't aware (and to be perfectly honest, I'm still not convinced) that f4 on full frame was actually shallower than f2.8 on crop. I'll be looking into that later tonight.<br> I do have a 70-200 2.8 and I had several primes over the years but I kept on leaving them at the house and always grabbing the do-it-all zoom so I ended up selling the primes. I do keep to the longer and of the zoom though, I tend to not care where I am as much as I care who I'm with. I always go in and grab people's faces more than the places.<br /><br /><br> Not sure where the forum is based but I'm guessing US so sorry for my English, am not a native speaker although I try really hard!</p>

<p>Hey guys,<br> <br />I am at a cross roads.<br> I had a 5D (classic) with a 24-105. Sold the 5D, decided it was about time and I would look for either a 5D mark II or a 6D.<br> 5D mark II used prices are ridiculous. Supply and demand I guess. Anyway, 6D is a much better deal. So I go out and find a 6D for 1000€ still under warranty of course. I think it's a decent deal. But...<br> I also find a deal for the same 1000€ for a 7D (I know, quite a different camera) + a 17-55 2.8 (a lot more interesting than my 24-105).<br> <br />So I'm torn. I think the 7D deal is fantastic but i'd be going from Full frame to APS-C. On the other hand I'd be rolling with a 2.8 zoom vs my good old 24-105 and I'd like that as I keep hearing fantastic things about the 17-55.<br> <br />If I do go for the 7D I'd be seeling the 24-105 and I can get around 500€.</p> <p>So I guess my question is, which kit would give me better photographs? (I dont shoot ANY movies at all)<br> <br />6D + 24-105 for 1500€ kit or,<br> 7D + 17-55 for 1000€?</p> <p>Which would you pick and why?<br />I shoot mostly portraits.</p> <p>Thanks in advance!</p>