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Greg: those are old posts generated by the Leica rumors and its adv for the new lens last year. It looks like nobody have yet obtained one.

I bought an M8.2 for $4 K several years ago. I sill have it for B & W and IR. Excellent camera!

Has anyone actually got hold of one? I placed my order on Dec 6, 2016 on B & H and it is still out of stock. If you actually have one, is it worth the wait? How is the quality of the lens?

<p>Dear Greg:</p> <p>Here is more rubbish for the M9 besides having to ship the camera to Leica God knows where and wait:<br> 1. The SD card is unreadable after you think you took a lot of pictures. This was widely reported several years ago by a professional photographer and Leica tried to cover it up. </p> <p>2. The color of pictures appear terrible compared to Nikon and Canon.</p> <p>I'll never trade in my M8.2.</p> <p> </p>

<p>Dear Greg:</p> <p>Here is more rubbish for the M9 besides having to ship the camera to Leica God knows where and wait:<br> 1. The SD card is unreadable after you think you took a lot of pictures. This was widely reported several years ago by a professional photographer and Leica tried to cover it up. </p> <p>2. The color of pictures appear terrible compared to Nikon and Canon.</p> <p> </p>

<p>Because of M8's IR sensitivity, on so called B & W pictures, more details will appear, especially on portraits. M9 has a defective sensor so you can forget about it. </p>

<p>Abe: Go "Retro" .</p><div></div>

<p>Justin: The Elmar 5 cm/3.5 too slow? Does it make any difference in digital ? Just take your M8 and take as many pictures as you can instead of weighing these suggestions regardless how sound they may be.</p><div></div>

<p>Not cheap for these stuff. None appears valuable except the 21 mm f/4 ($700 ?). Both the 135 mm and 90 mm together may worth less than $100. Ask yourself, would I be using a 135 mm with a VF on a range finder cam ? </p>

<p>Ricoh GR 1S Tmax 100</p><div></div>

<p>Restaurant Entrance Somewhere near Kyoto. GR 1S Tmax 100</p><div></div>

<p>Hope your grandfather's lenses don't have goggles. Mounting 35 mm and 50 DR lenses are not recommended from the M8 to the newest Type 262.<br> M8 is very good for black and white because of its IR sensitivity. It can also do IR hand held.<br> Get the newer M8.2.<br> Forget about the M9 because of its sensor mold growth problems.</p>

<p>For Leica SLs, the legendary SL2 with all analogue dials and huge view finder is the one to get for use, and collecting.<br> The relatively rare Nikon FM3A is also great for use and collecting.<br> I used both and still have them. I don't believe they would depreciate as fast as other SLs.</p>

<p>Additional inform regarding CLA</p> <ul> <li > <h3 ><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CFIQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dantestella.com%2Ftechnical%2Fcla.html&ei=8RBWVaHCMYPRsAW424DoBg&usg=AFQjCNGqjg7Q6CF5yTABUoKXSsvhDrX9GQ&sig2=aA3L_diGCaVq8e51fRcMSw&bvm=bv.93564037,d.b2w">That Leica CLA Culture - Dante Stella</a></h3> <cite >www.dantestella.com/technical/<strong>cla</strong>.html</cite> July 6, 2010. Have you ever stopped to notice just how many Leica cameras have "CLA" (Clean, Lubricate, and Adjust) mentioned in their auction or classified ... </li> </ul>

<p>Dear William:</p> <p>Just run a couple rolls of films through. If everything are fine then save your money. CLA is over rated. Also, think about how many rolls of film you are going to shoot this year. I have a used M2 and M3 (double stroke) for 30 years and they still shoot fine never had CLA. The M2 was a well used camera with a dent and broken film counter when I bought it in 1979, but the shutter speeds were still within tolerance when it was checked by a traveling Leica tech who visited dealers back in perhaps 2003. I used the M3 to shoot close up with B & W films two years ago, and exposures were as expected.<br> Everyone was talking CLA, but think before you throw your money away. </p>

<p>It is a nice little photo essay on Leica photography. For you collectors, there is a three page article in the 2014 Fall, Winter Edition of the UK Esquire The Big Black Book of the Leica called "the Dot Commerce", accompanied by three full page photo of the M3 and a two page photos of 24 film and digital models.</p>

<p>This lens you use may just be perfect for IR work. I don't see any hot spot in the picture. I have seen M8 IR pictures taken with a much more expensive and current lens showing a big hot spot in the middle.<br> I am still amazed by people who after purchased the M9 and then the M240 still mentioned that they preferred the "old" M8 in many respects. <br> It is also great in B & W photography, supposedly because of its IR sensitivity.</p>

<p>Correction: It should work with the M6 even with the goggle. It does not work with M6 TTL. Do not do anything to the lens ! It is a camera problem.</p>

<p>Alan: People from the "Far East" (How far?) are not stupid. They would rather buy a Ferrari or a Patek Philippe watch. </p>

Yes! Only on the M3. The Leica's mechanical master piece would not mount or focus only between 3-5 ft on "cheap" modern Ms fro M6 to digital m8, 9 and the latest M240. Otherwise, this lens would costs much more on the used market. Ken Rockwell explained this in his website.

It is better than any Leica had come up with so far. If I were you , I'll just get a used x100 and save a ton of money.

The new film Leica just reinforce critics saying: Leica Is for the rich people and is not for serious photography.

Give her the M2 and lens, keep the sl2 for yourself to foundle sometimes and sell everything else while you still can. Nobody in their right mind would use the screw mount Leicas.

KEH are good people... Thomas, be prepared to be disappointed and if not insulted. I dealt with these people before in Los angeles and they are basically highway robbers. I'll be surprised if these poeple will give you more than $500 for the M5 and the cron, and the R4 system all together. Their checks are good though. Other than the M lens, none of the other items are popular and worth much unless they are in mint condition. They 'll probably stay on the shelf for months or even years. Everyone is dumping their film cameras these days. If you sold them, let us know how much you get them for.

<p>Shawn: I saw all your five pictures posted, very good by the way, but I was disappointed not seeing anything from your M7 with the Summicron 50 mm.</p>