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<p>In the UK any Police or public official can be legally photographed if they are on duty and on public property</p>

 

<p>To M STephens<br>

What deluded planet are you living on? Its perverse to condone the kind of behaviour that is giving photographers world wide a bad reputation, if what you say is correct and this is all perfectly legal and above board, not to mention ethically and philosophical agreeable, why is this thread now 6 pages long, why are there only two of you in support of the right to capture the image of a private individual who just happens to be walking on a public beach and plaster their image, without their knowledge of consent all over the internet, without giving them the chance to either condone or condemn.<br>

Lets not kid ourselves here, the images are predominately of young scantily clad women captured by middle aged men, enough said!<br>

And like i stated previously, i am not averse to working with beautiful young models and capturing fine art or nude or glamour images, the difference is personal approval of the photographer from the model.<br>

In this instance i am glad i live in the heavily policed UK, where any attempt to capture these types of images would be dealt with swiftly and harshly and no doubt result in charge that would make it very difficult to work in the future.<br>

The industry and the internet policing itself just does not work!<br>

Last week alone 30 of my images stolen and posted on web sites all over the globe as other peoples work, if these trolls and hackers are happy to pass off copyrighted work as their own, then stalking CO-ED's on a beach holds no fears for them, as long as site like this allow their images to be hosted.<br>

MAC</p>

<p>As a father of three daughters and a beach loving wife, as well as being a former professional sports photographer i find this debate to be loosing the plot. Images such as those taken and displayed by John Nell on this site have no place in photography, its images and photographers like these that are giving the industry such a bad reputation. Regardless of wether these WOMEN are on a public beach or not, they have the inalienable human right to expect their image not to be captured for another human beings joillies, and then posted on the web for all to see. And to suggest that it is the parents prerogative to ensure that their daughters leave the home suitably dressed is victorian in its male chauvinistic prejudice. Lets not get embroiled in the ethical or philosophical debate here, the only real question is the legality of whats being done in the name of ART. I question the legality of posting an image of anyone in a public place on the internet without their express written consent, whilst it may be legal in certain countries to physically take the image in the first place, the ownership of the copyright and the intellectual property right remains with the model, unless a model release has been signed. In the UK you cannot photograph anyone under the age of 18 without the written prmission of their parents or guardians, even if they are in a public place, and can i suggest to all the US contributers to this thread, try doing any of this in France!!<br>

MAC</p>

<p>Are you sure it was a pocket wizard, the most likely answer is that it was a file transfer system, i use one from the touchline, my laptop is in the press room and as soon as i shot an image it is sent via a wireless network to my computer so that i do not have to waste time uploading the images at half time to get them to the picture desk!</p>