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Julian, what is worse then being locked in a system without a choice

is not being able to respect someone elses choice.

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If, as Laurel has stated, she is a Nikon person, why keep on

bothering her with Canon?

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Your kind of intolerant behaviour resembles more a kind of religious

fanaticism than an attempt to start a civilized discussion between

two persons with different viewpoints.

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As far as the whole Nikon vs. Canon thing is concerned, I have been

using each system next to each other for over twenty years now, and

each as its pro's and con's, and both are excellent, as are Leica,

Minolta, etc.

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So grow up, it's only a camera for godsake, eventually it's someone

talent that will decide if a picture is worthwhile or not.

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(end of rant)

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Paul K

Advatange's of the F80: layout very similar to the F100, more modern

electronics, reputedly faster (slightly) AF, copatible with VR and G

lenses

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Advantage's of the F90X: sturdy, durable workhorse. Feels substantial

which is easier when working with heavy lenses. AF is fast enough for

me (I shoot fashion with long lenses and moving models, and catwalk).

X synch is slightly faster

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I bought an extra one after I got a F100 with my first F90X

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HTH

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Paul K

You can attach any flash to you camera, but only not on the prism (of

any type) There's a special gizmo, the 'Flash Unit Coupler AS-1' that

slips on the rewind know, that allows doing so It also doubles as a

hotshoe

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HTH

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Paul K

1) No motor in the lens like in the AFS types Focussing motor is in

the AF camera's body AF has nothing to do with the display (this only

shows info)

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2) Manual aperture selection is always possible on the lens (only not

with G-type lenses which have no aperture ring) eg for use in M or A

mode With P and S mode aperture has to be fully closed down

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HTH

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Paul K

As already pointed out TTL does not use the sensor of the flash.

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But there are advantages of using the flash either sensor-guided or

TTL off the camera

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It will eg allow bouncing of an umbrella for a basic portrait setup

without having to buy monoheads and a flashmeter. Maybe not 100%

foolproof, but great wwhen you only starting to experiment.

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Or you can place it in such a position that ugly shadows can be

avoided, as done by many wedding photographers with special

flashbrackets, and the notorious red-eye effect

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With a standard non TTL computerflash, there are few very options.

Metz has a dedicated sensor for the Metz 60CT1, which ao allows

reduction of flashoutput etc (I have one of each gathering dust in a

closet) and use (way off) from the camera. Otherwise it's a matter of

aiming the sensor of the flah and hoping it doesn't get fooled.

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With TTL dedicated flash use off camera on the other hand it is

possible with special connection cords (Nikon SU-17 for the SB-28)

and even slaves (SU-4 for the SB28, though not recommended by many)

to use several flashes hooked up together as eg location units

(that's what I did with the 2 Metz 60CT4's I got in addition to my

60CT1; added advantage is I can swap batteries and powerpack) either

bounced in umbrella's or for direct (toward the object) but not on

the camera/lens axle illumination. No need for a separate flashmeter

as the flash is measured TTL by the camera

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So yours is not a bad idea

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HTH

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Paul K

It's definitely you.

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The advance-lever doubles as on/off switch for not only the

electronic shutter, but also for the metering. The system goes back

to FE, maybe even the EL.

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Solution is simple, although, considering the kind of 'complaining'

you already do about a film advance lever, you most likely will start

about the added weight.

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Buy a MD-12, will give automatic film transport, so you can keep the

camera where it is when taking multiple shots, and the advance lever

can stay in the off position, as the camera is switched on/off with

the MD-12.

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For me this kind of complaint goes in the same category like 'I don't

like this camera because the corner's of the body aren't round' or '

My nose get's squeezed when I try looking through the viewfinder'.

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Anyway, good luck.

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Paul K

At the risk of getting of topic, but why do you need a topmodel high

speed AF camera to photograph subjects that allow shutterspeeds

between 1/15th and 1/60th of a second?

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The reason why I started using AF camera's seriously and upgraded

form a F801 years ago to a F100 nowadays, is that modern AF allows me

to shoot moving subjects with long lenses under sometimes not ideal

circumstances (I do a lot of fashion location shooting and catwalk

photography).

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When I want to shoot the kind of static subject that allows such slow

shutterspeeds that I have to use a tripod, I readily fall back on my

FE with mock MLU or F2 with real MLU, both camera's take very little

space in my camera back. For metering I can still use my more modern

camera's, although those aren't 100% failsafe either, as everybody

knows.

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A 600mm AF combo to me seems ideal for shooting things like sports,

but when shooting landscapes or static nature shots, an oldfashioned

manual camera IMHO would do the trick just as good for a fraction of

the money.

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My two cents,

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Paul K

I think you'll find your answer at

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http://www.canonfd.com/

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Good luck

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Paul K

I never liked the F3.

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So when I heard Nikon was about to stop producing the F2, I rushed to

my camera shop and picked the literally last F2AS they had.

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The reason I prefer the F2 are the tank-like built quality, the 100%

viewfinder, excellent metering and removable viewfinder.

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Hmm, funny enough those could be the reasons to buy a F3.

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So I guess both are excellent camera's, which they are, and the

choice really comes down to personal taste.

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Same with going instead for a FM(2) or FE(2), or a FM3A. Excellent

camera's all and of course all Nikon lenses will fit, maybe with some

restrictions with the lastest AF lenses.

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But there's no denying the old Canon FL and FD lenses are indeed a

bargain, especially considering the excellent quality, and the New F1

or T-90, or even a FTb or EF (the camera, not the lens) are monuments

to the manual bodies Canon used to make.

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Although I use Nikon for all my professional work, I still have a

Canon TX with an old 1.8/85mm FL lens in my closet I love and cherish

and refuse to part with.

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So I guess you are in an enviable position, as you know enough to

know what you don't want, and have a wide choice of excellent

camera's and systems to make a pick from.

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Paul K

To my great releif Chasseur d'Images has released the details on the

EOS digital camera.

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Hopefully this will put an end to the seemingly endless stream of

rumours and messages Canonites have put on the web in the past time

on dream- and vaporware of what they had hoped that the ultimate

Nikon D-1x and D-1h beater would be.

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In the end it's just (..) another CCD non full frame digital camera

with a 4,48 Mpix, effective 4,16 Mpix chip and 1,3 extension factor.

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Of course Canonites wouldn't be Canonites without finding something

to prove their brand is better then Nikon, so on Dpreview forums

already techies have started discussions of how much more superior

this camera, with expected shipping date only in December 2001, will

be over Nikon as the camera according to specifications will shoot

8fps in 20 shot bursts and have a 1/16.000th top shutter speed.

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As a Nikon user I'm happy the EOS 1D finally has hit the market, just

as I was happy when after several years the EOS 1V finally appeared

to challenge the Nikon F5. It will keep Nikon sharp and force them to

stay awake and, unlike what they have done in the past, not rest on

past glory and achievements.

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It's this continuous competition between these two major camera

manufacturers that has stimulated technological innovations at

affordable prices, which is only to the benefit of both amateur and

professional photographers.

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So I hope some people will finally start taking pictures now, with or

without the latest camera that hit the market.

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Paul K

You get what you pay for, so don't expect the quality to come even

near that of a top dollar 'normal' 500mm.

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That said, I like my Panagor 8.0/500mm. OK the original Nikon is

better, but as I use the lens only occasionally, I'm not prepared to

hick up the extra money. Especially as I use the lens for fashion

pictures with the emphasis on atmosphere and movement, so the soft

image, limited DOF and doughnut rings in the background don't bother

me.

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You can see examples of pictures shot with this type of lens on the

Street Page of my website at

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http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/fashionpp/ppfashionphotointro.html

I can very well imagine though, that for e.g. nature or wildlife

photography those features can be precisely what you don't want.

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HTH

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Paul K