<p>Mark I didnt even think bout that. I gotta try that. Sometimes I see this effect outdoors as well, and I can't figure it out. Any time I get flare its pretty standard looking. Something like this:<br>
http://twomann.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/M_J_22.jpg</p>
<p>Marcus I didn't even think about email them personally. I just figured pro photographers don't want to tell you their secrets. I can't afford their workshops anyways. It's mostly self taught stuff and forums with great folks like you. Thanks. Ill give it a shot. </p>